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    AA Member Newbie Roxie is on a distinguished road
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    Default Howard William (fatty) Turner 1915-2006

    Im the Great-graddaughter to Howard and i am looking for some help to follow my family tree. Looking for relatives i dont know just something as there is not many Turner's left in my family.

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    Default Hello Roxie

    Wecome, first job for you is to get a big piece of paper and write down what you already have, so ....

    Start with yourself, then your mum and dad, grandparents, both sides, if you can.

    I am sure we can find "fatty" and all his family with a bit more information.

    Stay in touch,
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    Hi Roxie,

    Where was Howard born? Could it be Aston Wark's?

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    Hello Roxie,

    Can you tell us when & where ( area) your gt grandfather died, it is likely that we maybe able to identify his year of birth from the death records!

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    Hi Roxie,

    I think I've established which registrations are Howard's using the birth and death years provided by you. Do these records belong to him?

    Howard W Turner, Aston Wark's, registered Jan 1916, 6d/953, mother's maiden name KINGS.

    Death: Howard William Turner, Birmingham, registered Nov 2006, date of birth 24/12/1915

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    I looked for a Turner/Kings marriage, this one looks promising.

    Alfred Turner to Amy B Kings, Apr - Jun 1912, Aston Wark's,

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    Other possible children born to Alfred and Amy

    Alfred Turner, Oct-Dec 1912, Aston Wark's, 6d/795, mother's maiden name KINGS
    Marjorie G Turner, Jul - Sept 1922, Aston Wark's, 6d/982, mother's maiden name KINGS

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    To ensure you trace the correct family it will be necessary to invest in marriage/birth certificates. Birth certificates give father's occupation, MMN and their address, marriage certificates name bride and groom's fathers' and occupations, also witnesses.

    All records below, may or may not be your ancestors. You can keep them on file until you have certificates to prove or disprove.

    Here's a possible birth for Amy. Amy Beatrice Kings, Jan - Mar 1891, Aston Wark's, 6d/289

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    1891, living Bordersley, RG12; Piece: 2413; Folio 122; Page 45

    George Kings 34, head, Brewers Drayman, Worc's
    Mary Ann Kings 41, wife, Doverdale Worc's
    James Jno Williams 17, stepson, Ashted Birmingham
    Annie Elizth Kings 10, dau, Aston
    Emily Jane Kings 7, dau, Bordesley
    Amy Beatrice Kings 1 month, dau, Bordesley

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    1901, Aston Manor. RG13; Piece: 2883; Folio: 59; Page: 12

    George Kings 45, Builders Carter, Wychbold
    Mary Ann Kings 51
    James J William 27
    Annie E Kings 20
    Emily J Kings 17
    Amy B Kings 10

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    1881, Aston, RG11; Piece: 3024; Folio: 8; Page: 10

    George H. Kings 23, Journeyman Baker, Wychbold
    Mary A. Kings 31
    James J. Williams 7
    Annie E. Kings (1 month or 11 months, not clear)
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    If the above does relate to your family history then George's middle name was HEMMING

    Births Dec 1857, Droitwich, 6c/367, George Hemming Kings

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    residenceWorcester, England parents:George King, Ann King record title:England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975name:George Hemming King gender:Male baptism/christening date:31 Jan 1858baptism/christening place Dodderhill, Worcester, England father's name:George King mother's name:Ann King
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    1871, living Dodderhill (less than a mile from Wychbold) All born Dodderhill. RG10; Piece: 3070; Folio: 82; Page: 17

    George Kings 44
    Ann Kings 40
    Joseph Kings 20
    George Kings 13
    Ann Kings 8
    Eliza Kings 4
    Charles Kings 3
    Allen Kings 6 Months

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    Marriages Dec 1851, Droitwich, 18/358, George Kings to Ann Mason

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    There's a few Alfred Turners' which could be your chap. To reliably establish the right one you will need to buy his marriage certificate, once we have a father's name and occupation we should then be able to trace him back.

    Certificates can be ordered here at a cost of £9.25. General Register Office (GRO) - Official information on births, marriages and deaths

 

 

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