Thread: Mollart - Stoke on Trent

gxmartinbaker@h

Looking for links to the Mollart family in Hanley / Stoke on Trent in Staffordshire, UK.

Especially descendants of John Mollart born 1766, probably in Stoke on Trent and his wife Martha Chetwynd (or Chetwin) born c1770 in Wolstanton, near Stoke on Trent.

They had 23 children. He was a pottery designer, and died around 1827. Married 16/10/1787. They eventually lived in Mollart Street in Hanley. He was a rather famous pottery designer, hence had a street named after him !

Martin.

elaine ann

hello martin
my ancestors have the name mollart.william mollart born 1848 in burslem.in 1881 he was living with his wife and mother in law and his step daughter alice keele they lived in nettlebank smallthorne.williams wife died and i found him again in the 1901 census he had married alice keele much younger than him.they had a child living with them in 1901 his name was arthur and was born in 1900.it is him i am particularly interestd in,he was my dads uncle but he never met him.my gran and her brother were seperated in childhood and they never saw one another again.do you have anyone of this name in your tree?
would like to hear from you best wishes
elaine clayton

gxmartinbaker@h

Hi Elaine,

I can't spot a link just between your Mollart family and mine, but there is a very good chance they are related, and I know the name William crops up a fair bit in my line. I do have a William Mollart who's DoB I had to guess as being 1835 but it could easily be 10 years later. The certainly originally came from the Stoke / Burslem / Hanley / Shelton area, but lots of them went to Manchester in the 1830's/1840's.

My William Mollart was the son of William Mollart & Hannah Owen. His siblings were John, Frank, Edna, James, Henry, Hester and Hannah. I only know Hester's DoB for sure, and that was 1842. If this rings any bells then do let me know. Are you, by chance, on Genes Reunited ?

Regards Martin. gxmartinbaker@hotmail.com

By the way, the origin of the Mollart name in the UK focusses very strongly on Stoke on Trent, and I believe started with the arrival of Jehan Mollart (or it might be Moillart, Moillard, or Mollard) who was from Paris and a senior minister in the French Protestant church. As Protestant religion was outlawed in France in the mid to late 1600's many thousands of French Protestants (Huegenots) fled France for Holland, Germany and the UK. Most arriving in the UK ended up in the London area, but some research by UCL on origins of names (http://www.spatial-literacy.org/index.php?p=familyname) shows that the Mollart surname was very much concentrated in Stoke on Trent in 1881, and even in 1998 Stoke was still the dominant centre for the Mollart name.

elaine ann

thanks so much for the reply it is very interesting yes i am on genes reunited and have already found a link happy xmas to you

john mollart

Martin
I Have recently seen your web notice looking for Mollart's
My family came from Hanley Stoke on Trent and were potters, I even have an copy of a 'potters glaze' patent taken out in the early 1900s.
I currently have a family tree that has been researched by my cousin also living in Blackpool that has traced our ancestors back to 1690.
The leading article on this site are about myself, and I was unaware they existed until today, hence the interest.
I also believe that my son is the last male heir of our line, and at present he has two daughters.
Family history tells me (correct or not) that it was my great grandfather that built Mollart Street.
I would be interested to hear from you and any information you may have to extend my knowledge.
The earliest family member known to me was Thomas Henry Mollart circa 1675

gxmartinbaker@h

Hello John,

It sounds like there is a good chance we might have a link. As far as I know the Mollart links in Hanley in the 1700's and up to about 1835 probably all descended from a single line. That of Jehan Mollart of Paris born sometime in the 1600's.

Here is a copy of a message I sent to another Mollart descendant - I can't seem to make this cut and paste to when I tried to edit this message, so sorry if it seems a bit jumbled. The family links go in reverse order, most recent links come first.

If you are an active member of Genes Reunited you can see how our trees might connect. You will find me on GR as Martin Baker born Spandau, Berlin 1958, so if you are a GR member then ask to view my tree and I will share it with you. Otherwise I could send you a GedCom of around 4000+ names, of whic part is of course the Mollart tree.


The information on the Mollart line is rather more interesting, and goes back to the 1600's in Paris. Hester Mollart's parents (my wife's great grandparents) were William Mollart born c1805 who came from Shelton-under-Harley in Stoke-on-Trent and Hannah Owen born c1807 from Wem, Shropshire. They had 8 children, and must have made a move to Manchester sometime before the 1840's when Hester was born.

William Mollart's father was John Mollart born 1766, almost certainly in Stoke-on-Trent (probably Hanley) and he married Martha Chetwynd (or Chetwin) born c1770 in Wolstanton near Stoke. They had 23 children (!!), of which about 13 emigrated to Sydney in about 1835. John was a jolly famous chap as he was a designer for Wedgwood, and designed the very famous blue Willow Pattern china, and he even had a street named after him in Hanley (sadly it's now a ring road) ......... perhaps, John, this is who you refer to as the person who built Mollart Street; I have no idea if they were that affluent, but John Mollart must have made a few bob from his Willow Pattern designs. I know for sure that he built (or lived in) Mollart House in Mollart Street, which as far as I can tell was a pretty large and impressive house, and one assumes it could house his very large family. The rest of Mollart Street, as far as I can tell, was pretty regular early Victorian-style terraced houses. It has since been demolished.

John Mollart's father was William Mollart born 1830 who is described as being 'of Staffordshire and France'. He married Johanna Jackson born c1740, and they had four children. This information, and some of the above and below comes from three hand written copies of the Mollart tree - these wer perhaps all copied from each other, but they are pretty substantial and informative. I much of the tree, specific dates (ge DoB and marriage dates) are not given, though dates for a few key people were noted down.

Finally William's father (or perhaps grandfather) was Jehan Mollart; we don't know his date of birth but he came from Paris and was a church elder in the Reformed Protestant Church in Charenton, Paris. This might be early 1600, hence we don't know Jehan's dates. As Protestant churches were outlawed in Paris then Jehan would have been driven out, so was part of the Huguenot migration to UK, Holland, Germany etc, and Jehan or his son/grandson somehow found his way to Stoke on Trent.

That's pretty much it so far. A few old paper copies of the Mollart tree exist, and the originals sit with another Herbert Mollart-Rogerson's granddaughters (Sally-Anne Mollart-Rogerson) and the great granddaughter of Herbert's older brother Arthur Caleb Rogerson who is a lady called Jill Farrington.

Well, I hope this is of some interest. All sorts of Rogerson and Mollart-Rogerson 'memorabilia' exists : old photographs, a watercolour painted by Herbert's brother Harry Summerfield Rogerson, musis written for Queen Vcitoria's daughter by my wifes great grandfather James, with lyrics written by your great grandfather Herbert. And we even believe we have some c1700 prototype designs of the Wedgwood Willow pattern.

If anybody in your line of the family can add more information to the story or the Rogersons, the Mollarts and the Mollart-Rogersons then I would be most interested. I'm more than happy for you to share this information with anybody and if you get a chance then do take a look at the tree in Genes Reunited - I will open up access for you right now. At some point soon I will try to make a resume of the family links in a Word document ................ this is more or less done, and if you think we have a firm link then I would be happy to send you a copy.

My direct e-Mail address is gxmartinbaker@hotmail.com

What is your e-Mail ? Also that of your cousin in Blackpool ?

At this point I have no record of Thomas Henry Mollart c1765. Do you have any specific info regarding (1) his parents, (2) his spouse, (3) his siblings or (4) his children.

It is quite possible that Thomas Henry Mollart is a 'missing link' generation in between Jehan Mollart (who may have been born early 1600, or maybe later in the 1600's) and William Mollart who was said to be born in 1730 'of Staffordshire & France'.

I hope this might inspire some further thoughts and links, and of course I am happy for you to farward this on to others.

Regards, Martin Baker.

elaine ann

hello john.i have not actually gone back that far as i am tracing a story of my gr gran alice keele she fell off a canal barge and drowned.and i am doing it in this order as my father is 86 this year and i wanted to try and end the story for him.so i have alice keele born 1877 in smallthorne.1881 census puts her 3 yrs old in the household was jemima baskeyfield gran,elizabeth mollart mum and william mollart stepfather he was aged 32 at the time.so in 1901 we were trying to find the identity of my grans brother they were seperated at a very young age and did not see each other again.so we found that and i was surprised that alice keele had married her stepfather william mollart in 1900.william was 52 and alice was 23.they had elizabeth my gran,william who died at the age of three and then arthur the long lost uncle.and we wonderd if arthur grew up and had a family of his own .and thanks to the local paper we traced his daughter and he had three daughters so the mollart name died out there.back to william we think he died in 1903 he had a spell in prison but we dont know yet what for.then alice mollart married george warburton in 1907.william i think was born in burslem in 1849 at the moment i dont have much more on him i have some vital records discs and the 1881 census but at the moment i cant get them to work.i am very interested in the way people resembled each other through the generations.my email address is john.clayton903@ntlworld.com i would like to send you a photo of my gran and arthur.and i would like to see a photo of one of your mollarts to see if there is a resemblence.hope to hear from you best wishes
elaine clayton

CharlieMollart

Hey
I'm a Mollart, and i know there are a lot of us in the Bristol/staffordshire area, but i was wondering if you could tell me anything about 'the Mollarts'
I've found quite a few on facebook, and so far i all i can gather is that there is a lot of short, chunky, arty types!
All i know about the heritage is that it's french, and possibly czech
I'd be grateful for any other info you have!
take care
xxx