Thread: Fry

Sandra

My Fry family's came from Canning Town / Custom House / Plaistow / West Ham, all in East London, but originated from Malmesbury in Wiltshire.

Sandra

Lomiruco

Sandra, how far back have you got with your Fry family?? My Fry connection also came from Malmsbury/Hullavington.

Lois

Sandra

Hi Lois

I've had all the parish records out for Charlton and Westport in Malmesbury.

Although all the Fry's are interconnected, mine are from Charlton and Millbourne. Using the parish records, I have got back to 1704, with the birth of my 8th great grandfather.

My g-g-granddad left Malmesbury in about 1860 (I can't find him on the 1861 census) to travel to London. His name was Alfred Fry. He was born in 1840 on a farm called Millbourne (which was where all mine lived for years) He married in 1865, in Shoreditch, London. Then moved to West Ham, where I was born.

Where were yours in the 1851 census? I can then see if we are connected, as I know exactly where all of my lot were then.

Sandra

Lomiruco

Hi Sandra,

In 1851 my Fry family were in Hullavington.

1851
No address - place Hullavington, Wiltshire
Folio 427 Page 9 Entry 33
FRY Stephen - head - 41 - Agricultural Labourer - Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY Sarah - wife - 31 - Sherston
FRY *Rachel - dau - 13 - Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY James - son - 12 - Agricultural Labourer Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY Fanny - dau - 10 - Scholar Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY Leah - dau - 9 - Scholar Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY William - son - 6 - Scholar Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY Philip son - 4 - Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY Isaac - son - 1 - Hullavington , Wiltshire
FRY Cornelius - NEPHEW - 21 - Agricultural Labourer - Hullavington , Wiltshire

They were also in Hullavington in 1841. Appear to stay in Hullavington for the other censuses, apart from some of their children who moved a little further away.

*Rachel married Francis Hamp. She was my GGGGrandmother.

Lois

Sandra

My gg-granddad had a brother Cornelius, but he was born May 1837 and died 4th April 1838, he was in Charlton. Maybe it was a family name?

In 1851, mine were living in St Mary Westport, in 'The Dean of Malmesbury' They were living in a place called Blanchard Green.

Richard Fry - head - 39 - Ag lab - born Charlton, Malmesbury
Jane Fry (nee Leonard) - wife - 39 - born Charlton, Malmesbury
Alfred Fry - son - 11 - scholar - born Charlton, Malmesbury
John fry - son - 7 - born Millbourne, Malmesbury
Frederick Fry - son - 4 - born Westport, Malmesbury

I think our families may have lived a little too far away from each other. if you look on a map - click on the link -

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=396500&y=188500&z=5&sv=396500,188500& st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&ax=3965 00&ay=188500

You can see that Charlton and Millbourne are a bit north of Malmesbury, whereas Hullavington, is right down the south bit, almost where the M4 is now.

I have just been through all of my Fry's and I haven't got any in Hullavington.... yet! Who knows what we may discover in the future, we may be connected, it's just a case of looking.

Mine just stayed where they were, even in the 1901, they are still there, still working on Millbourne farm. Which is why it's a bit strange that my gg-granddad decided to stop being an ag lab in Malmesbury, and travel to East London (Essex then) to work on the 'new' Royal Docks.

I have unearthed a few skeletons, which has been facinating. His son John (g-granddads brother) was in Chelmsford Prison in 1891. Another two of his sons William & Richard, killed a bloke on Richards wedding night. They are in Pentonville in the 1901 census.

I don't know what John did, but I found out what the other two did via the Black Sheep Index, which is a wonderful site. I can't remember the address, but just google Black sheep Index, and it should come up. I have 5 newspaper reports, and a police report. From them being arrested, and remanded in custardy in West Ham police station, to their sentencing at The Old Bailey. Their nephew, my Nan's eldest brother gave evidence, he was only 10 years old!!

Sandra

LoriFryLau

My family (Fry) came from Wiltshire England around 1870/1871 to the U.S.

My GGG-grandfather was a James Fry, who was born around 1835 and he had married a Betsy Leversuch (?) in 1850 and they had two sons, Enoch (my gg-grandfather) and his brother Joseph. They were living with her father in 1861 in West Grimstead, Wiltshire, England in 1861.

From what I know, Joseph has been married atleast three times since Betsy was apparently his second wife. He and his third wife Emma Webb (?) had the following children before coming to the U.S.: Fanny, George, Tamera (?), Helen, and William. They moved to Jacksonville, Illinois after arriving in the states, then had Hadley and Lora. Joseph and Enoch also came to the U.S. and Enoch married Eliza (not sure of her maiden name) and they had the following children: James Wilbur (my g-grandfather), Carrie, Clyde, Chester, and Percy. Enoch was born in November 1854 though. My g-grandfather married Jeanette Fulks then had the following children: Oliver Q (my grandfather), Bessie, Eliza Beatrice, Allen E, Jacob E, Dorothy, Helen, Gertrude, and Wilbur J. I don't know much about the Fry family and their origins in England, just what I have listed above. Hopefully that might help. Lori

Sandra

Hi Lori

My Fry family came from Malmesbury, which is quite a distance from West Grimstead. Mine were a lot more further north. West Grimstead is near Salisbury, whereas Malmesbury is right up on the border with Gloucestershire.

Unfortunatley Fry is a very common name in England, especially Wiltshire. You may find also, the further back you get, the spelling may change to Frye with an e on the end.

Good luck with your research, sorry I can't be more help.

Sandra

LoriFryLau

Thanks for the post Sandra. I have seen papers where my g-grandfather was listed as James Wilbur Frye and Fry, so as I am doing the research I have been trying to figure out the correct spelling. I wasn't sure where West Grimstead actually was though. Thanks again, Lori

LoriFryLau

Here is another little bit of information for my Fry/Frye side of the family. If what I have here is correct, then Joseph Fry was born abt. 1801 in Wiltshire England (according to the 1841 census when he was 41) and I think his first wife was Fanny who was born abt. 1803 in Wiltshire England (also courtesy of the 1841 census) and this is where the information is tricky. They have listed (according to the 1841 census) that there was a daughter named Jane, and she was born abt. 1825 in Wiltshire, England and was sixteen in 1841 and then there was James Fry who was born abt. 1829 in Alderbury, Wiltshire England who was their son. They do have that James was married to Betsey Leversuch and she was born abt. 1837 and was married in 1850 to James Fry. The other two children listed in the census (1841) of Joseph and Fanny were Mirian Fry who was born abt. 1837 in Alderbury, Wiltshire, England and Elizabeth Fry born abt. 1840 in Alderbury, Wiltshire England.

James and Betsey's sons were Joseph and Enoch (who was my gg-grandfather) and Enoch was married to an Elizabeth Kearns and they had the following children: Percy, Chester, Clyde, James (My great grandfather) Ralph and Carrie. I have found some information on Chester Fry and that was something since I did find some distant relatives of his. I have also found out that James Fry who was born abt 1830 was actually William James Fry or James William Fry. But either way, he dropped the William from his name according to what we found out. I think his father was born in 1750 and his name was Joseph Fry (or Frye) but either way, I hope this does help in finding more information. Thanks, lori

LoriFryLau

Hi. I just wanted to post what I recently found today to see if anyone might have some information on this. I am still trying to find the connection on this family. If my calculations are correct, then my GGG-grandfather's name was William Joseph. If you know of any information regarding this family or know how to find the information for me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Lori Ok basically what I found was some information on Joseph Fry. From what I found, he was born abt 1751 in Wiltshire, England (didn't list city though) and he died Sept 1824 in Alderbury, Wiltshire, England. He was married on 19 June 1786 in Pitton, Wiltshire, England and was married to a Mary Love, who was born abt. 1752 also in Wiltshire, England (and again no birth city) and her death date was Sept 1814. She was buried 29 Sept 1814 in Pitton, Wiltshire, England and had one son, William. He was born 2 Nov 1786 in Pitton, Wiltshire, England and was christened 19 Nov 1786 in Pitton. He later died 26 Feb 1859 in Milford, Wiltshire, England. William was married twice in his lifetime and his first wife was Jane Harwood who was born abt 1791 in Coombe-Bissett, Salisbury, Hants, England and she was christened on 21 Jan 1791. She died May 1821 in Coombe-Bissett and was buried in Homington, Wiltshire, England. They had one child together and his name was John James Fry, who was born abt. 1815 in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England and he was christened on 13 Jul 1815 in Coombes-Bissett, Wiltshire, England. James's death was listed as 30 Sept 1842 and it's listed that he was lost at Sea on H.M.S. "Victor".
Now William had remarried after Jane's death and his second wife was Harriet Marlow who was born in 1800 and she was christened on 19 Jun 1800 in St. Thomas, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. They were married on
23 Oct 1822 in Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England and they had the following children:

I. Emma Fry: b. 1825 and she was christened on 20 Jan 1825 in Coombe-Bissett, Wiltshire, England.
II. James Marlow Fry: b. 1825 and he was christened also on 20 Jan 1825 in Coombe-Bissett, Wiltshire, England. He later was buried on 8 Jun 1825 in Coombe-Bissett.
III. James Marlow Fry: b. 1826 and he was christened on 18 Jun 1826 in Coombe-Bissett, Wiltshire, England.
IV. Charles Fry: b. 1828 and he was christened on 18 Sept 1828 in Coombe-Bissett, Wiltshire, England.
V. William Fry: b. 1832 and he was christened 9 Dec 1832 in Coombe-Bissett, Wiltshire, England.
VI. Harriet Fry: b. 1834 and she was christened 31 Aug 1834 in Coombe-Bissett, Wiltshire, England.
VII. Charlotte Fry: b. 1837 and she was christened on 8 Jan 1837 in Coombe-Bissett, Wiltshire, England.
VIII. George Fry: b. 9 Mar 1839 in Milford, Wiltshire, England.