Thread: FURNIVAL in Liverpool

janemfraser · 23-07-2006, 02:49 PM

Samuel FURNIVAL was a grocer in Liverpool, with a Daniel FURNIVAL. Samuel went to New York City in 1821 and I am tracing his descendants. I would like to find Samuel's parents.

See http://www.gencircles.com/users/janemfraser/4/data/1496 for more information.

Jane

nanna · 23-07-2006, 05:00 PM

Hello Jane,

Have had a look round and come up with the following:

1796 Liverpool Gore's Street Directory
Edward Furnival Sadler back of 19, Oldhall Street.
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1821 Liverpool Gore's Street Directory
Samuel Furnival Grocer 109, St.James' Street.

These two are the only entries prior to Samuel going to USA.
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IGI Family Search

Marriage
Daniel Furnival and Ann Clapham
25/12/1815 at St.John's, Old Haymarket, Liverpool.

Source
Batch No: M021255
Dates: 1808-1819
Source Call No: 1068948
Type: Film
Printout No: 6904479
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IGI Family Search:

Birth
Samuel Smith Clapham Furnival
Christened 28/4/1818 at St. Peter's, Liverpool.

Batch No: P020272
Dates: 1815-1826
Source Call No; 0093874-00993876
Type; Film
Printout Call No; 6903233

You haven't given a date of birth for Samuel, could this be the one that was with Daniel the Grocer and possibly be his son. ?

Nanna

janemfraser · 23-07-2006, 05:45 PM

Nanna - thanks for looking around. I do have that information.

My information is at http://www.gencircles.com/users/janemfraser/4/data/1496.

I estimate Samuel was born about 1786, from US censuses.

The parents of Samuel Smith Clapham FURNIVAL are Daniel and Anne. They also had William Frances Furnival, 30 SEP 1816. I have found a Daniel FURNIVAL in Waddington, New York, (he died there in 1833, age 44, thus having a plausible birthdate) and a Samuel Clapham FURNIVAL in Maine. I can't connect them to my Samuel, but it all seems very plausible.

The listing of Edward FURNIVAL is intriguing, but I haven't been able to connect that to Samuel either.

My Samuel FURNIVAL married Ann KNOWLES (which may be her surname, or her 1st husband's surname) 12 SEP 1811 in St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.

They had
Mary Ann c 1 MAR 1812 in St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, ENG
William George c 27 JUN 1813 in St. Peter
Samuel c 11 JAN 1816 in St. Peter

When they came to the US, a Jane FURNIVAL was also with them, born about 1809.

When I was in Salt Lake City a few years ago, I looked at all the Liverpool Directories I could find and found Samuel and Daniel listed several times. I can't put my hands on the info now.

More info is at http://www.gencircles.com/users/janemfraser/4/data/1496.

The Edinburgh Advertiser listed Samuel FURNIVAL as bankrupt in 1817. Would there be records of that?

Thanks. Jane

23-07-2006, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
janemfraser New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	FURNIVAL in Liverpool Samuel FURNIVAL was a grocer in Liverpool, with a Daniel FURNIVAL. Samuel went to New York City in 1821 and I am tracing his descendants. I would like to find Samuel's parents. See http://www.gencircles.com/users/janemfraser/4/data/1496 for more information. Jane
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23-07-2006, 05:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
nanna Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Liverpool, Merseyside.U.K Posts: 11,414 Total Awards: 3	Re: FURNIVAL in Liverpool Hello Jane, Have had a look round and come up with the following: 1796 Liverpool Gore's Street Directory Edward Furnival Sadler back of 19, Oldhall Street. *.................................................. .......* 1821 Liverpool Gore's Street Directory Samuel Furnival Grocer 109, St.James' Street. These two are the only entries prior to Samuel going to USA. *.................................................. .......* IGI Family Search Marriage Daniel Furnival and Ann Clapham 25/12/1815 at St.John's, Old Haymarket, Liverpool. Source Batch No: M021255 Dates: 1808-1819 Source Call No: 1068948 Type: Film Printout No: 6904479 *.................................................. .........* IGI Family Search: Birth Samuel Smith Clapham Furnival Christened 28/4/1818 at St. Peter's, Liverpool. Batch No: P020272 Dates: 1815-1826 Source Call No; 0093874-00993876 Type; Film Printout Call No; 6903233 You haven't given a date of birth for Samuel, could this be the one that was with Daniel the Grocer and possibly be his son. ? Nanna
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23-07-2006, 05:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
janemfraser New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3	Re: FURNIVAL in Liverpool Nanna - thanks for looking around. I do have that information. My information is at http://www.gencircles.com/users/janemfraser/4/data/1496. I estimate Samuel was born about 1786, from US censuses. The parents of Samuel Smith Clapham FURNIVAL are Daniel and Anne. They also had William Frances Furnival, 30 SEP 1816. I have found a Daniel FURNIVAL in Waddington, New York, (he died there in 1833, age 44, thus having a plausible birthdate) and a Samuel Clapham FURNIVAL in Maine. I can't connect them to my Samuel, but it all seems very plausible. The listing of Edward FURNIVAL is intriguing, but I haven't been able to connect that to Samuel either. My Samuel FURNIVAL married Ann KNOWLES (which may be her surname, or her 1st husband's surname) 12 SEP 1811 in St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. They had Mary Ann c 1 MAR 1812 in St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, ENG William George c 27 JUN 1813 in St. Peter Samuel c 11 JAN 1816 in St. Peter When they came to the US, a Jane FURNIVAL was also with them, born about 1809. When I was in Salt Lake City a few years ago, I looked at all the Liverpool Directories I could find and found Samuel and Daniel listed several times. I can't put my hands on the info now. More info is at http://www.gencircles.com/users/janemfraser/4/data/1496. The Edinburgh Advertiser listed Samuel FURNIVAL as bankrupt in 1817. Would there be records of that? Thanks. Jane
janemfraser New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3