Thread: William Lewis Tindall marriage

I am trying to find a marriage for William born 14 Nov1880 Lambeth.Father James and mother Rosina Berryman.In 1901 he was living with mother at 94 Railton Rd Lambeth.Unsure where father was-possibly living with an Elizabeth at 64 Shakespear Rd Lambeth.
I have a marriage cert 1908 Lambeth for a William Lewis 27 licensed victualler father James deceased.Problem seems to be that he was a licensed victualler.My William's father was a retired police constable in1881 and a Metropolitan stage driver in 1891.
Is there more than one James Tindall with son William Lewis born 1880?
I have the same problem with a marriage 1902 for Edward Tindall who is Williams brother.Correct age and father but fathers occupation is Vestryman.

Ed

Originally Posted by jcoltee

I am trying to find a marriage for William born 14 Nov1880 Lambeth.Father James and mother Rosina Berryman.In 1901 he was living with mother at 94 Railton Rd Lambeth.Unsure where father was-possibly living with an Elizabeth at 64 Shakespear Rd Lambeth.
I have a marriage cert 1908 Lambeth for a William Lewis 27 licensed victualler father James deceased.Problem seems to be that he was a licensed victualler.My William's father was a retired police constable in1881 and a Metropolitan stage driver in 1891.
Is there more than one James Tindall with son William Lewis born 1880?
I have the same problem with a marriage 1902 for Edward Tindall who is Williams brother.Correct age and father but fathers occupation is Vestryman.

Ed

Lots of retired policemen ran pubs - I had two great-uncles that did this, so I wouldn't assume the occupation was necessarily proof its not the same chap. If the ages are right and James/Edward's occupations match with other records I'd think you've probably got the right people. Are the addresses on the marriage certs of any use?

Oh and bear in mind that people often gave their father's posher or more respectable jobs. I don't think vestryman would be a full-time occupation.

My own gt grandfather was an ordinary milk carrier, taking churns round the streets. When his son married some 20 years after gt grandfather's death, he described gt gdad as a "provisions merchant".

Originally Posted by Jeuel

Oh and bear in mind that people often gave their father's posher or more respectable jobs. I don't think vestryman would be a full-time occupation.

My own gt grandfather was an ordinary milk carrier, taking churns round the streets. When his son married some 20 years after gt grandfather's death, he described gt gdad as a "provisions merchant".

Thanks Helen

Unfortunately neither witnesses nor street addresses help.The James Tindall living with Elizabeth could be the correct father although the age is off.His real name is Edward James Lewis Tindall and place of birth Pimlico consistant. James appears to have died 1906 Lambeth which would jive with William saying his father was deceased.

Hi Jcoltee,

I don't know whether this is of any help, but I have just come across the army service records of a William Tindall, living at 156 Brook Street, Lambeth. (Attestation was 19/04/1915). He was 36.

Wife is an Ellen Weston, m. 11/11/06 in Southwark.
Children are:
Elizabeth 24/01/1907
Ellen 28/06/1908
William 04/08/1910
Amelia 19/10/1915

Mrsp

William LOUIS was baptised 14 November 1880 the s/o Edward James & Rosina TINDALL of 3 Regent Road at St Jude East Brixton. His father is desc as Policeman, ?ex, Sometimes the clergy enter the date of birth, but this is not the case

death entry William L TINDALL b1880 aged 32 died O/D 1912 Lambeth 1d 235

If it is the correct death it will give ingo re wife or informant etc

His brother Edward Edwin was baptised 29/07/1877 ( entered born 16/07/1877) at the time Edward was desc a Thames Policeman....my re action was a River policeman

His marriage in 1902 carries an entry dated 20/12/1902 that Emma s/b Emma Jane

I found this birth entry Edward James Lewis Tindall q2 1840 St Hanover Sq 1 20

1861 census RG9 4488 21 as a mate on the Samuel & Sussanah

Rosina appears to have died 1921 Lambeth

I am struggling to find your family on the 1901 census!

If you go to A......y there are a least 4 different family trees you will find that Edward JL was quite a 'character' he had a least 2 wives! There are 1/2 siblings shown!

Thanks mrsp2008 and Elsabels

This family has been a real struggle.EJL Tindall had 2 and maybe 3 wives. With each wife he registered his childrens birth using a different name.Maybe his birth was a sign of things to come-mother not married.Hard to say.Children seem to be everywhere and those that stayed in England do not always show up in census.Two seem to have vanished after leaving home.
William is with his mother Rose in 1901 living at 94 Railton Rd,Lambeth.

Thanks
Ed

* Is character the right word

Originally Posted by jcoltee

* Is character the right word

OK then gigalo/ bigamist! Wharever it will be a converstion stopper!

What made me look at Ancestry was the James & Elizabeth Tindall 1901 entry.......I think before you go any further you need to concentrate on the family of EDWARD JAMES LEWIS, it makes sense, he used 2 of his 3 forenames, eliminate those from the baptism records.....and yes he most probably had ALL these vocations to help maintain his family (S) and also plot their living areas out on a map! Contact the other subsribers to exchange info( they may have more than is shown on the site) and views......Then hopefully the rest will fall into place

He obviously traded under various guises, a master of deception

elsabels

I have baptisms for all children that show on the various census and some of their marriages and deaths.There is a 1906 death that may be Edward James Lewis but if the person reporting the death is not someone from his previous families then I do not know how to proceed.