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    An eminent surgeon in Worcester born around 1790 numerous children in his family. I bought a pencil
    sketch picture of one of his children forty years ago i.e. Edgar J Sheppard born around 1819 All information gratefully
    acknowledged Wak

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    Just wanted to say Wak that I went off looking for your chap then got distracted at finding someone had my folk on their tree with which there are no links at all so i had to stop and leave them a message that MY people are not their people and that they had got things wrong!Then that led me to other things..... and so your Edgar Sheppard(who is nothing to do with my Sheppards) slipped my mind..... but I will now go back and look for him!

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    1841 census. Worcs St. Nicholas
    James Sheppard surgeon age 50
    wife Maria45
    Edgar 20
    Maria 20
    helen 15
    Charle 10 and a few servants
    And next door another surgeon Joseph Shelton.
    (Weathy sort of area . Indpendent folk and servants)

    HO107/1209/14

    By 1851 Edgar Now aged 31 is in Enfield Middx a widower a MRLS, LSA born Worcester.
    James Edgar 5
    Margaret Edith aged 3. both children born Worcs
    Mary Marmount 69, wife's aunt born Wales
    Catherine Marmount sister in law 29 born Wales
    and various servants/ cook/groom / coachman and gardener/ housemaid/nursemaid.
    HO107/1703/312/34.

    1861 census Rg9/857/folio12 page 18

    Edgar sheppard 41 is a visitor at the home of a merchant Benjamin Cotton in Chipping Wycombe Bucks,
    and with Edgar(still a widower) is daughter Margaret 13.
    Edgar is an MRCP St Andrews.
    Again a comfy household with plenty of servants.

    And a marriage at St James Westminster Paddington on Jan 39 1873 between Edgar Sheppard, widow of Friern Barnet, physician and Rosalie Sydney Doxat widow of St James Westminster. Her father is James Rattray , an Admiral and his father is James Pook Sheppard, a surgeon. Witnesses the minster Halford Adeock? and Edgar Sheppard.
    Last edited by Lola5; 16-01-2012 at 06:23 PM.


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    Hi Lola5, Congratulations on finding Edgar and taking me through his professional career and private life. I understand
    that a quality oil portrait of his father hangs in a Worcester medical centre where they have not found out who painted it! I wondered if any of the ancestors were still around in Worcester whereupon I could return this sweet item of Edgar
    aged three in order that it will find its spiritual home. WAKAGRATEFUL to your undoubted skills

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    Hi Wak,
    That sounds a lovely idea and I'm sure any one of the present day family would welcome it. We'll have to trace the children of Edgar and Margaret and see what anyone comes up with.

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    Hi Lola, Thanks for assisting and I hope your quest is fruitful and I will deliver Edgar if the right destination is found.

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    Not moving very fast on this one though info is all there,
    Edgar the physician married for second time and he becomes physician in the lunatic asylum at Friern Barnet. He outlives his second wife and retires to Bloomsbury
    If you want census details I will put them on.
    Edgar James his son is lodged with the Curate of Bisley and his sisters in Bisley Goucestershire in 1861. He is aged 15. (and Margaret is with her father visiting.)
    EDgar goes into the church and in 1901 is Dean of the chapel Royal, aged 55 and living at 70 Oxford Terrace Paddington.
    With him is his wife MARY aged 53, and a son HUGH K.L SHEPPARD aged 20.
    and several servants
    G13/13/76/31
    In 1911
    Edgar 65 is clergyman of St james Palace
    wife Mary 62
    and various servants(6)
    They have been married 37 yrs and have had 4 children, 3 living and one dead.
    RG14/01186

    I think perhaps we need to trace Hugh and the other two.

    I have a death for Margaret Edith Sheppard in 1871.... but not sure if it's the correct one.

    Think that Hugh KL Sheppard is more likely to be Hugh R L(Richard Laurie) Sheppard born 1880 Windsor.
    Also became a clergyman.
    Is found returning from Canada on 23 Sept 1925. He is age 45, a clerk in Holy Orders. His wife is not with him.

    Marriage of a Hugh Richard Laurie Sheppard to Alison L Carver at Congleton Cheshire in April Qr of June 1915.
    Probate of Hugh Richard Laurie Sheppard. DD of 1 Amen Court , Paternoster Row London , clerk in Holy Orders died 31st Oct 1937
    Probate 26 Nov to Alison Lennox Sheppard, widow and Ranulf Greenwood solicitor.
    Effects £40, 384 18s and 6 d.
    Resworn £80,412 1s and 1d.
    So now we need to find the children of Hugh and Alison if any?
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    Right.
    Edgar and wife MaryPeters sheppard had another son besides Hugh Richard Laurie and he was called Arthur Montague Sheppard/ born Oct 1879 Windsor but poor wee lad died Windsor 1882.
    They are on 1881 census for Windsor.
    Mary Peters Shepherd wife of assistant cannon(Edgar is away on Church/other busuiness.)
    and the two childen Arthur Montague and Hugh RL Sheppard with usual domestic servants at 10 upper Cloister Windsor.
    RG11/1323/6/5

    I have followed Hugh and wife through electoral registers and they appear to have no children. But this needs confirming.

    So we need to find those other two children of Edgar an mary Peters Sheppard.


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    Lola5 Well what an astonishing affluent medical religious journey you have examined to find little Edgar a home. As Edgar (in beautiful aged gilt frame looks down at me) on my study/computer room wall. I think you have the bit between
    the teeth to take it to fruition. I can send you the image if there is an easy way. Grateful thanks and Best wishes
    Wak

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    I don't know Wak,
    I think I need help in finding those other two and am hoping one at least has heirs. Keep fingers crossed!

    It is most interesting comparing my Sheppards who come from Suffolk originally with your Edgar's familiy. So different! Mine were farmers and ag labs and brass founders, the Army etc and not from the wealthier echelons such as "your " Edgar came from and yet one of their progency ends up at Selwyn Coll to do Divinity'Theology and is a Reverend for over 60 yrs!

    It will be interesing also to see what professions Edgar's heirs have followed.

 

 

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