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Julie could be Phyllis and family below? Thankyou for your email. I really need to see the Certificate if possible? .......


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Old 28-08-2008, 09:04 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Julie could be Phyllis and family below? Thankyou for your email. I really need to see the Certificate if possible? The head of this family the Father is Phillip John McNamee. Mothers name Marian. What a lovely name. Ha Ha. Phillip John McNamee gives his profession on the Census as Foreman -Shoe Maker. There is no profession for Marian. The address looks like Challeris Sq? Marian was born in Scotland about 1862. Phillip John McNamee was born in Ashton Under Lyme, Lancashire, England about
1865. Florrie was born 1887 Bradford, Yorkshire, England. Mary was born 1889 also Bradford Yorkshire. The other children were all born Newington, London, England Registration district:St Saviour Southwark




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1901 England Census
about Phillis McNamee Name:Phillis McNameeAge:8 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1893Relationaughter Father's Name:Philip JohnMother's Name:MarianGender:FemaleWhere born:Newington, London, EnglandCivil Parish:Newington Ecclesiastical parish:St Matthew Newington County/Island:London Country:England Street address:

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Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district:St Saviour Southwark Sub registration district:St Mary, Newington ED, institution, or vessel:18 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:310Household Members:NameAgeFlorrie McNamee14 Harry McNamee10 Marian McNamee39 Marica M McNamee5 Mary McNamee12 Philip John McNamee36 Phillis McNamee8 William McNamee2


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Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Kent.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater And Plant from Deptford, Bermondsey,And The Cape Of Good Hope. Fulcher from Deptford St Paul.
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Old 28-08-2008, 01:29 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Hello again, Marion,

Thanks for everything so far. Re the older Thos. Webster/Eliz. Wilson, please could you have a look for them in 1851. I want to see if they're still around and, if so, where.
Many thanks for your time,
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Julie thankyou for your email of confirmation. Would you like me to go back further with Phillip John McNamee? We can search one family at a time. Did you already have the siblings names for Phyllis? I wont forget your Coates family either. I,m off to work shortly. Another day at the Workhouse for me.


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Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Kent.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater And Plant from Deptford, Bermondsey,And The Cape Of Good Hope. Fulcher from Deptford St Paul.
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Marion,
Thank you for all your help and kindness. I would be grateful for any information on any member of my family which ever lineage.

You are a star taking such trouble to help 'newbies' like me!

Please keep in touch

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Hello Julie,
I have found some more information.. The Surname McNamee was mistranscribed on the 1851 and 1861 Census. Please let me know your thoughts on all of this. Your McNamee Ancestors came from Ireland. I have made some notes as I have gone over the Census for you. I need to find John which I feel is your link to all of this? Julie these Census start with 1841 then 1861 back to 1851.

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.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P{padding:0px;}.ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}1841. Philip McNamee Profession Sailor. Ann wife age 25 years also born Ireland. Profession Printer Cotton? The children were all born Ashdon Under Lynn. The family are shown to be living in Wood Street.












1841 England Census
about Philip McNamee Name:Philip McNameeAge:30 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1811Gender:Male Where born:IrelandCivil Parish:Ashton Under Lyne Hundred:Salford County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address:

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Registration district:Ashton and Oldham Sub registration district:Ashton Town Neighbors:View others on page Household Members:NameAgeAnne McNamee25 John McNamee5 Peter McNamee1 Philip McNamee30 Thomas McNamee6


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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 532; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne; County: Lancashire; Enumeration





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This is the same family above for 1861. Philip is now a Widow but his profession is still shown as Sailor. Peter is down as being aged 20 years and gives his profession as Butcher. There is now a younger brother James aged 13 years. John aged 5 years from the 1841 Census I believe is your link to Philip John McNamee . This Philip profession Sailor, was your Philip John McNamee,s Grandfather. I,m sure of it. John is not on these Census so I will have another look for him later on. You will note Julie the surname was mistranscribed (McNamer )but the Census clearly state McNamee.






1861 England Census
about Peter McNamer
Name:Peter McNamerAge:20 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1841Relation:Son Father's Name:PhilipGender:MaleWhere born:Ashton Under Lyme, Lancashire, EnglandCivil Parish:Ashton Under Lyne Ecclesiastical parish:St Michael Town:Ashton County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district:Ashton Under Lyne Sub registration district:Ashton Town ED, institution, or vessel:26 Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:97Household Members:NameAgeJames McNamer13 Peter McNamer20 Philip McNamer52


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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2984; Folio: 59; Page: 16; GSU roll: 543059.
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1851.. Again Surname mistranscribed and the ages are for sure out. The family are living in Worthington Square. Philip is still down as Sailor. Ann is down as Laundress. Thomas who is down as being age 12 years is doing the same profession as his Mother Ann was in 1841.Cotton Print. The surname on the Census has been gone over and changed. (McNamee)











1851 England Census
about Phillip McNamara Name:Phillip McNamaraAge:35 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1816Relation:Head Spouse's Name:AnnGender:MaleWhere born:IrelandCivil Parish:Ashton Under Lyne County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address:

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Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district:Ashton Under Lyne Sub registration district:Ashton Town ED, institution, or vessel:1cc Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:162Household Members:NameAgeAnn McNamara30 Janes McNamara3 Peter McNamara8 Phillip McNamara35 Thomas McNamara12


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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2233; Folio: 189; Page: 39; GSU roll: 87246.

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Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Kent.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater And Plant from Deptford, Bermondsey,And The Cape Of Good Hope. Fulcher from Deptford St Paul.
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This is me Marian...........wheyhey, I am so excited. All this information is fantastic.
It certainly looks cridble that Philip b 1811 is Philip John's great granfather. Therefore John b c1836 is the connection as you say.
I know you are giving your all on tracing this back for me Marion and I so thank you. You certainly know your stuff.
Without people like you, people like me would stay in the dark.
My sincere grateful thanks

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Hello Julie,
Thankyou for you kind words. Its gets difficult sometimes trying to work out Great and Great Great for our Ancestors... This so far is my working out......




Philip John McNamee was the son of John McNamee.
John McNamee was the son of Philip and Ann McNamee.
Phyllis McNamee was the Great Granddaughter of Philip and Ann. I will see what else I can uncover for you Julie on the McNamee,s before moving on to Coates.



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Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Kent.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater And Plant from Deptford, Bermondsey,And The Cape Of Good Hope. Fulcher from Deptford St Paul.
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Julie here is the Birth Ref... for Philip for 1863. This Cert would tell you his Mothers Maiden name.



Births Dec 1863 (>99%) McNAMEE Philip John Ashton 8d352


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Also in the 1841 Census Julie there is a Peter McNamee aged 1 year who was the son of Philip and Ann. This is most likely his marriage..





Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%) McNamee Peter Ashton 8d759



These are the names mentioned for 1862 on freebmd




Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%) Adstead Eliza Ashton 8d759 Axon William * 8d759 Bottomley Emma Ashton 8d759 McNamee Peter Ashton 8d759 Saxon Agnes Ashton 8d759





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Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Kent.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater And Plant from Deptford, Bermondsey,And The Cape Of Good Hope. Fulcher from Deptford St Paul.
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oh boy.....this is sooooo interesting.
thank you thank you thank you
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Julie I have some more information for you. Do you want me to find more on Peter the brother of John also the son of Philip and Ann?




reference..
Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%)
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BERNASCHINA Marion Ashton 8d 738

MCNAMEE Philip Ashton 8d





Julie the details below are about about Marian before she married.... I see from the find she was a Lace Hand.



This is his wife (before marriage)...1881
Marion Bernaschind
[Marion Bernaschina]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 70 Beverley St
Education:

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Occupation: Lace Hand

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: St Ann
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
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Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Beckett 21
Ellen Beckett 55
Geo. Beckett 54
Helen Beckett 16
Jane Beckett 11
Mary Beckett 18
Marion Bernaschind 22

Davies from Devon,Cornwall and Westham.Sturgeon from Stanton Suffolk and Islington.Levitt from Fleet Lincolnshire,Cambridgeshire And Islington.Morton from Westham-Moreton from Abingdon Berkshire_Carr from St Giles Oxfordshire.Ackley from ?McClelland From Ireland.Whitehead from Scotland,Ireland and Kent.Prisk from St Hilary Cornwall.Whittlesea from Chatteris and Pidley Cum Fenton.Slater And Plant from Deptford, Bermondsey,And The Cape Of Good Hope. Fulcher from Deptford St Paul.
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