Thread: Ayres/ Turner

stilllooking · 17-04-2008, 01:18 PM

I AM GETTING VERY FURSTRATED WITH THESE PEOPLE!!!!!

Ok got that out of my system, I am looking for either a marriage
between Nehemiah Ayres and Susan Whitlock or maybe John Turner and Susan Whitlock (although just to make things harder Susan has been known to use the name Norris)

The age range isn't too brilliant either as they are Romany they didn't tend to marry under licence as they had their own ceremonies, so to speak.

I have a rough date of Nehemiah birth 1826. Again nothing for for the elusive Susan but abt 1831 ish

Their children's birth dates range from 1850 - 1875

Nehemiah was born in Brown Candover Southampton but it is thought Susan is from Blandford Forum in Dorset.
From the children births it is known they also travelled in, wiltshire,Hampshire and Dorset.

I have them in a few census as well 1861 and another but cannot find it at the moment.

Hope someone can help me and hopefully i have given enough information.
Thank you Tina

slizzy · 17-04-2008, 09:53 PM

Hi Tina,

Is this them in 1861? If so, I will look further tomorrow. I'm extremely tired just now .......... so not the best time for me to do effective searches. Let me know if this is them, and I'll do involved searches tomorrow, if it is.

Name: Nehemiah Ayres Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susan W Gender: Male Where born: N

Civil Parish: South Newton Ecclesiastical parish: South Newton County/Island: Wiltshire Country: EnglanCaroline Ayres 8 Edward Ayres 1 Mo Eliza Ayres 10 Henry Ayres 3 Nehemiah Ayres 30 Rhoda Ayres 5 Susan W Ayres 27 Jan Blundy 34 Henry White 5 Jemima White 29 Sarah White 1

stilllooking · 18-04-2008, 04:43 PM

slizzy yes that is them. I didn't realise if i clicked on the blue bits it would take me to the census.Instead i spent an hour searches to double check, lol. They say you learn something new everyday.Thank you.

Tina

slizzy · 18-04-2008, 08:22 PM

Hi Tina,

Sorry, after spending a couple of hours searching I haven't got anywhere. I wanted to update you so you'd know I haven't forgotten. I'll keep looking .......... may be take another look tomorrow. Meanwhile, someone else may have more luck.

T.Lambert · 18-04-2008, 10:35 PM

Hi Tina
My names Tina too, and i have Ayres on my husbands side Mark Light/Crutcher married Betsy (Elizabeth) Ayres. I have this if it helps:

1851 Census: Andover, Hants (in camp)
George Ayres. 51. hd chair bottomer. b Tadley, Hampshire
Rosa Ayres. 39. wife b Great Bedwin, Wiltshire(nee Pike)
Ann Ayres. 20. b Hants
Cornelious Ayres. 26 son mat maker
Emma Ayres. 18. b Hambleton, Hampshire
George Ayres. 9. b Andover, Hampshire
Henry Ayres. 23. b Greywell, Hampshire
Louisia Ayres. 5. b Odiham, Hampshire
Namima Ayres. 23. (Nehemiah)b Inham, Hampshire
Susan Wellock. 20. (Whitlock)(she wed nehemiah)
Kasa James. 22. b Therfield, Berkshire. (Keziah James wed Cornelius Ayres)
Alfred James Ayres. 3. son b Chilbolton Hants (son of Cornelius Ayres).

I hope its of some help, i havent been able to connect them to my Ayres i have, Betsy parents were Jessie and Louisa ayres.

slizzy · 18-04-2008, 10:55 PM

Hi T. Lambert

That's fantastic, I no longer need to search for them in 1851

I'm sure Tina will be pleased with your info

stilllooking · 19-04-2008, 09:48 AM

Hello Tina, thats the other one i have them on. You certainly know your stuff!!!
You say Nehemiah married Susan whitlock (also has formely known as Norris on some of the childrens birth cert) We cannot find a marriage for these two. But we have got Nine children so far for them.

I only have Jessie as a cooper and no Louisa that i can think off. We do have an ELiza Ayres 1851 great Bedwin child of Nehemiah and Susan.

This family has had some name chanages that are proving hard to confirm;
Nehemiah ' chanaged ' his name to John and they both started to use the surname Turner. I don't know why or exactly when

George born 1870 and my gt.gt.grandfa oliver born 1875 have John Turner and Susan turner formely Whitlock as the parents.

Thank you Tina

T.Lambert · 19-04-2008, 01:55 PM

Thats ok, its only information ive found and thought it may connect to my Ayres at some point.
Ive found these, though i dont know if there the Nehemiah who your looking for:
Marriage.
District Vol Page
1846 Turner Nehemiah Wayland 13 953
1848 Turner Nehemiah Aylesbury 6 421
1866 Turner Nehemiah Halstead 4a 667

There was nothing on Nehemiah Ayres, they may not have even registered it. I cant find my husband, grandads birth, yet ive been able to find his brothers and sister. They changed there name from Light to Crutcher.

17-04-2008, 01:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
stilllooking Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 33	Ayres/ Turner I AM GETTING VERY FURSTRATED WITH THESE PEOPLE!!!!! Ok got that out of my system, I am looking for either a marriage between Nehemiah Ayres and Susan Whitlock or maybe John Turner and Susan Whitlock (although just to make things harder Susan has been known to use the name Norris) The age range isn't too brilliant either as they are Romany they didn't tend to marry under licence as they had their own ceremonies, so to speak. I have a rough date of Nehemiah birth 1826. Again nothing for for the elusive Susan but abt 1831 ish Their children's birth dates range from 1850 - 1875 Nehemiah was born in Brown Candover Southampton but it is thought Susan is from Blandford Forum in Dorset. From the children births it is known they also travelled in, wiltshire,Hampshire and Dorset. I have them in a few census as well 1861 and another but cannot find it at the moment. Hope someone can help me and hopefully i have given enough information. Thank you Tina

17-04-2008, 09:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15,402 Total Awards: 8	Re: Ayres/ Turner Hi Tina, Is this them in 1861? If so, I will look further tomorrow. I'm extremely tired just now .......... so not the best time for me to do effective searches. Let me know if this is them, and I'll do involved searches tomorrow, if it is. Name: Nehemiah Ayres Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Susan W Gender: Male Where born: N Civil Parish: South Newton Ecclesiastical parish: South Newton County/Island: Wiltshire Country: EnglanCaroline Ayres 8 Edward Ayres 1 Mo Eliza Ayres 10 Henry Ayres 3 Nehemiah Ayres 30 Rhoda Ayres 5 Susan W Ayres 27 Jan Blundy 34 Henry White 5 Jemima White 29 Sarah White 1

18-04-2008, 04:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
stilllooking Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 33	Re: Ayres/ Turner slizzy yes that is them. I didn't realise if i clicked on the blue bits it would take me to the census.Instead i spent an hour searches to double check, lol. They say you learn something new everyday.Thank you. Tina

18-04-2008, 08:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15,402 Total Awards: 8	Re: Ayres/ Turner Hi Tina, Sorry, after spending a couple of hours searching I haven't got anywhere. I wanted to update you so you'd know I haven't forgotten. I'll keep looking .......... may be take another look tomorrow. Meanwhile, someone else may have more luck.

18-04-2008, 10:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
T.Lambert Committed Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. Posts: 62	Re: Ayres/ Turner Hi Tina My names Tina too, and i have Ayres on my husbands side Mark Light/Crutcher married Betsy (Elizabeth) Ayres. I have this if it helps: 1851 Census: Andover, Hants (in camp) George Ayres. 51. hd chair bottomer. b Tadley, Hampshire Rosa Ayres. 39. wife b Great Bedwin, Wiltshire(nee Pike) Ann Ayres. 20. b Hants Cornelious Ayres. 26 son mat maker Emma Ayres. 18. b Hambleton, Hampshire George Ayres. 9. b Andover, Hampshire Henry Ayres. 23. b Greywell, Hampshire Louisia Ayres. 5. b Odiham, Hampshire Namima Ayres. 23. (Nehemiah)b Inham, Hampshire Susan Wellock. 20. (Whitlock)(she wed nehemiah) Kasa James. 22. b Therfield, Berkshire. (Keziah James wed Cornelius Ayres) Alfred James Ayres. 3. son b Chilbolton Hants (son of Cornelius Ayres). I hope its of some help, i havent been able to connect them to my Ayres i have, Betsy parents were Jessie and Louisa ayres.

18-04-2008, 10:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
slizzy Ancestry Aid Staff Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15,402 Total Awards: 8	Re: Ayres/ Turner Hi T. Lambert That's fantastic, I no longer need to search for them in 1851 I'm sure Tina will be pleased with your info

19-04-2008, 09:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
stilllooking Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 33	Re: Ayres/ Turner Hello Tina, thats the other one i have them on. You certainly know your stuff!!! You say Nehemiah married Susan whitlock (also has formely known as Norris on some of the childrens birth cert) We cannot find a marriage for these two. But we have got Nine children so far for them. I only have Jessie as a cooper and no Louisa that i can think off. We do have an ELiza Ayres 1851 great Bedwin child of Nehemiah and Susan. This family has had some name chanages that are proving hard to confirm; Nehemiah ' chanaged ' his name to John and they both started to use the surname Turner. I don't know why or exactly when George born 1870 and my gt.gt.grandfa oliver born 1875 have John Turner and Susan turner formely Whitlock as the parents. Thank you Tina Last edited by stilllooking; 19-04-2008 at 09:52 AM.

19-04-2008, 01:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
T.Lambert Committed Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Isle of Wight, Hampshire. Posts: 62	Re: Ayres/ Turner Thats ok, its only information ive found and thought it may connect to my Ayres at some point. Ive found these, though i dont know if there the Nehemiah who your looking for: Marriage. District Vol Page 1846 Turner Nehemiah Wayland 13 953 1848 Turner Nehemiah Aylesbury 6 421 1866 Turner Nehemiah Halstead 4a 667 There was nothing on Nehemiah Ayres, they may not have even registered it. I cant find my husband, grandads birth, yet ive been able to find his brothers and sister. They changed there name from Light to Crutcher.