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    Default Francis Smith Born Leake Lincs 1807

    Francis Smith bap. Leake 1807 , Parents William and Charlotte Smith" took up with *Henry Gumm. (born Ham Surrey1808 baptised Harmondsworth Middx. Parents Thomas and Johannah.
    Francis is on 1851, 1861 and 1871 cenuses for Boston Lincs. Henry is sometimes visitor/lodger/head in household.
    There are three children; twins Edward and Henry born 1843 Newark Notts and William born 1846 Boston.
    Henry and Francis marry in April 1871 in Boston. Address for both 2 Witham green Boston. He is 64 and she 66 and a widow.!? His father Thomas Gumm lab(doesn't say dead but he must be). Her father William smith , lab.
    I cannot find Francis Smith on 1841. There is a possible in Burghfield with a daughter Fanny and another possible in Lincs.
    I cannot find Henry Gumm/Gum/Gomm/Gammon? on 1841 census either.
    I would like to know whether Francis was married before and to whom and whether she was in Nottingham in 1841 . Am certain the twins and William were Henry's offspring (Gumms had twins) and Edward and Henry are family names. Not got their birth certs
    Any ideas welcome.

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    There's one here too in Newark with 9 year old Mary

    1841 Census
    SMITH, Francis Female
    HO107 piece 868 folio 4/31 page 13

    Found this baptism

    1843 Mar 01 Henry son of Henry Smith and Frances Newark St Mary Magdelene
    1843 Mar 01 Edward son of Henry Smith and Frances Newark St Mary Magdelene
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    Thank you Elaine. Thank you.
    You have turned my day around.
    How ever did you find them?
    So they were not Gumms after all and Poleta was right about twins coming from the female side!
    And Frances wasn't the Frances Smith born Leake.... unless a Smith married a Smith

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    Got an interest in Notts and have a few bits to hand
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

 

 

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