Hi Loz and thanks for the welcome. This is definitely the place to be when you are "stuck".
So many possibilities re Herbert. The only way to solve this dilema is to order the certificate I guess.
Who knows-- maybe the parents decided that they did need to be married after all.
I have been looking for Immigration records and there are soooo many Garners with H-or Wm. etc. We have no idea when they arrived in Canada, other than it was before 1929 as that is when he got married in Manitoba Canada.

Ahhh-- the fun of searching for "ghostly" answers--LOL
I don't quit tho and there must be an answer out there somewhere--
Thanks everyone at AA!!
