Thread: Can You Make Sense Of This

My poor wife is going round in circles over this family, can anyone make sense of them? How can two different men (Paget and Patchell) have the same parents?



Birth Thomas Paget

29 Jul 1855 1 Harris Lane Greenock

father Edward Paget born Leitrim Ireland

mother Mary Ann Paget formerly Fawcett born Leitrim Ireland

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Marriage Thomas Patchell 1 Harris Lane Greenock occupation Seaman.

26 Nov 1877.

married at St Johns Greenock.

parents Edward Patchell

Mary Ann Patchell formerly Fawcett.

Ann Jane McVey

parents Thomas McVey

Catherine McVey formerly Mathieson.

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Death Thomas Paget

2 Mar 1879 Greenock Infirmary former address 1 Harriis Lane Greenock

parents Edward Paget

Mary Ann Paget formerly Fawcett

wife Ann Jane McVey

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Birth Ann Jane McVey Patchell

9 Jul 1879 Shaw Street Greenock

father Thomas Patchell Seaman deceased 2 Mar 1879

mother Ann Jane Patchell formerly McVey

birth registered by Thomas McVey (Grandfather)

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Marriage Ann Jane Paget

25 Sep 1900 to Edward Carroll.

brides parents Thomas Paget Seaman deceased

Ann Jane McLean formerly Paget Maiden Surname McVey

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Any help with this would be gratefully received. We have either register entries or certificates for all the above, so they are official.



brummie.

Hmmm...the only logical explanation is that Thomas used 2 surnames! Paget & Patchell ?!?!



Loz

Hi Brummie.

It could well be that the parties involved were not able to read and write so the registrar wrote what he thought he heard as the parents of Thomas may have had an Irish accent. If you can find the marriage of Edward and Mary Ann or the birth of Edward that would surely give you the true surname. Hope that's of some help

Hi Mollie.



Someone on another site found the marriage of Edward Paget and Mary Ann Fawcett for me. They married in Kinloch in Leitrim, Ireland on 4 Jan 1842, and the name was definately Paget.



Why their son Thomas married under the name Patchell is a mystery.

I am really interested in your info - I have tried to find Thomas Patchell death certificate but obviously the name changed somewhere along the line. As far as I can tell, Ann Jane McVey was my grandfather's sister.

[quote name='brummieboy']My poor wife is going round in circles over this family, can anyone make sense of them? How can two different men (Paget and Patchell) have the same parents? ...



brummie.[/quote]



Hi Brummie



I've been thinking 'outside the box' on this one ... if the person giving the information had a strong 'local' accent and the person taking the information being (perhaps) a bit 'hard of hearing' ... PAGET / PATCHETT could sound similar! Then writing it down ... could be 2 x 'T' had been written on the end. I don't think they were quite so 'pedantic' in these days about checking, cross-checking then re-checking written details Sometimes the person giving the information wasn't particularly good at reading either!



Regards



Chiad Fhear



PS Hope your wife doesn't get too dizzy

There you are then m'lady Marion ... problem solved



I get funny looks sometimes when I say I'm 'thinking outside the box' but more often than not it does help.



There's none sae blind as cannae see!



Regards



Chiad Fhear