Thread: looking for harry holder

can anyone please find me any info on harry holder,born 5/2/1890?hunslet leeds.i know he was killed in france 1918 and burried in france as he was in that war.i know he married and lived in canada after marriage.i beleive he had 3 children.harry was born out of wedlock.his mother died young in hunslet leedsharry was i beleive brought up with my great grandmother who lived in hunslet leeds.his mother was sarah holder.she died in her 30,s.any info or army info too would be a great help.thankyou brenda x

Hi Brenda

Is there any chance your chap was a Henry or did he have a second name we can check on?. Can you confirm which war it was as well. I am finding conflicting information and Inwoudnt like to confirm at this point . many thanks

Hi Brenda
From the 1901 census:
SISTER, George Head Married M 37 1864 Leather Tanyard Labourer Shadwell Yorkshire
SISTER, Julia E Wife Married F 36 1865 Forrest Dean Gloucestershire
SISTER, George R Son Single M 14 1887 Hunslet Yorkshire
SISTER, Annie Daughter Single F 11 1890 Hunslet Yorkshire
SISTER, Arthur Son M 7 1894 Hunslet Yorkshire
SISTER, Emily Daughter F 2 1899 Hunslet Yorkshire
HOLDER, Harry Nephew M 11 1890 Hunslet Yorkshire
Piece:4193 Folio: 30 Page: 1
7, Telford Terrace, Hunslet

But the name Sister has been mis-transcribed, as in 1911 it becomes Lister
LISTER, George Head Married M 47 1864 Boot Repairer Yorkshire Shadwell
LISTER, Julia Emma Wife Married 25 years F 46 1865 Gloster Crimsleford
LISTER, Aruther Son Single M 17 1894 Miner Hurrier Yorkshire Hunslet
LISTER, Rowland Son M 6 1905 At School Yorkshire Hunslet
Address: 16 Midland Avenue Hunslet


There is a marriage which would suggest that Harry was a nephew.
Marriages Sep 1885
Holder Julia Emma Hunslet 9b 369 (Sister of Sarah??)
LISTER George Hunslet 9b 369


I can not find a record on the CWGC that fits. (I expected to find details of a widow.) Nor can I find a service record.

Harry's mothers death.
Deaths Dec 1895
Holder Sarah Ann 27 Hunslet 9b 190

In the 1881 census, Piece: 4488 Folio: 32 Page: 25 Julia E and Sarah A, living with siblings and parents Joseph & Sarah.

thankyou bandit it was world war one ....regards brenda xxx

sarah never married she had harry out of wedlock she died in her 30,s.yes julia was my great grandmother she married a lister.the above is right brian.harry,s great grandchild is coming from canada he knew little of harry.im trying to get as much on him as i can for him.im related to him as sarah was sister to my great grandmother. regards brenda xxx

brian .....sister was a mistake it was put as sister not as it should have been lister but you have the right family,thankyou brenda xxx

wow yes lola i beleive the war people were looking for her as to give her the medals brenda xxx

Well what info do you have?
I don;t want to bother you with stuff you've already got.
Obviously he was in South Africa for a bit as he married there 1/3/1912 , Address there was 145,First Ave. Greyville Durban.The eldest child Phyllis was born in Umtali Rhodesia(now called something else) 26/12/1912. Second child, Esme born1914 Durban and Frank born 1915 Durban,
He was a private in 2nd batt, D. Of Wellington's West Riding Regiment.

Then he signed on for short service in 1916 and there is a Private HM Holder aged 27,who arrives in Uk on troopship Kaiser-I-Hind that came from gibraltar into Plymouth arrivingJune 23 1917.
I guess then he was sent out to france.
He died18 July 1918.
His grave no is E10 at the LE Vertannoy(maybe Vertanncy?) British Cemetery at HINGES.

From the CWGC site

HOLDER, H
Rank:Lance Corporal
Service No:18154
Date of Death:18/07/1918
Regiment/Serviceuke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment) 2nd Bn.
Grave ReferenceE. 10.
Cemetery LE VERTANNOY BRITISH CEMETERY, HINGES
Location Information
Le Vertannoy is a hamlet nearly 1 kilometre west of the village of Hinges, which is a small village 2 kilometres north west of the town of Bethune in the Department of the Pas-de-Calais.

It does not show next of kin.

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Harry Holder
Birth Place: Leeds
Residence: Durban, South Africa
Death Date: 18 Jul 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Hammersmith
Rank: L/Corporal
Regiment: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment)
Battalion: 2nd Battalion
Number: 18154
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre