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    Default searching for ancestors of the spalding and warren famililes

    hi, searching for ancestors of john spalding b 1830 he was married to ann warren b 1832 ann father was william warren b approx 1801 her mother was ann? all i know is they must have lived in england i know it is a big ask but would be grateful for any info that will set me on the right path dapter

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    Hi dapter,
    Welcome to Ancestry Aid. Please have you a place in England somewhere? . A rough idea will do. Was Norfolk ever mentioned? Or Devon?

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    Hi dapter,

    I have moved your post from 'Site Help and Information' to 'Request Help With Your Family History Research', as it should attract the site helpers more in it's new location.

    I have some good news. The marriage is on 'Ancestry London England Marriages and Banns 1754-1921' database.

    All Souls Church, St Marylebone, Middlesex, 7th Oct 1849.

    John Spalding, full age, bachelor, French Polisher, father: John Spalding (farm labourer)
    Ann Warren, full age, spinster, father: William Warren (Tailor) Deceased.
    Witnesses: Maria or Marion Warren (unclear) and Henry Lewker??? again unclear.
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    Do you know if they had a son William John born 1851?
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    I am assuming John and Ann emigrated to Australia, if they did do you know when? I cannot find them on the 1851 census.

    Where in Australia did they settle?
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    Hi Slizzy, I have found that record i am trying to get further info on John's father and William Warren can you help out there , and thanks for what you have already done Dapter

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    Hi again, Yes they had a son William John Spalding born 1857 Toowoomba Australia died 1938 he was married to Mary Hunt Dapter

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    Hi Lola5, I do know they were married at All souls Middlesex will this help I would also like to thank you for your help without people like you giving time to help others we be lost thanks Dapter

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    Looking at the 1841 census there's more than one Ann Warren born circa 1832 with parents William and Ann, but I don't see one which has a William occ Tailor.

    If you already had the marriage, I assume you have access to Ancestry's records. I'd advise you to look for a family with a Maria (witness to marriage) also look at deaths for William Warren pre 1849. A big problem for you is not knowing where Ann was from, just because she married in London doesn't mean she was born there.

    You didn't say when the couple moved out to Australia, do you know?
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    I think this might be your william Warren on 1841.
    St Anne Soho Middlesex
    William Warren 40 tailor N(not born Middlesex)
    Ann Warren 40 Y
    Harriett Warren 16 Y
    ANN 13 Y
    MARIA 9 y
    John6 y
    HO 107/pice730/book7/folio44 page 16.
    This ties in quite nicely with the marriage slizzy found at Westminster Langham All Souls 7th Oct 1849 where both were of full age and where father of Ann was William Warren a tailor and one of the witnesses was Maria Warren.


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