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    Default Mabel Audery (Audeley) Frost Born Circa 1881/1882

    Hi Everyone.

    I am trying to discover a birth record for a Mabel Audrey (Audeley) Frost born circa 1880/1882.

    The first official record I can find of her is her Marriage to John Thompson Wright on the 10 May 1906.

    On the Cert it gives her age at the time as 25 making her year of birth either 1880 / 1881 depending on her birthday.

    Her husband was a Officer in the 14th King's Hussars who later gained a DCM.

    Soon after they married they left for war campaigns across the world.

    They had four children all born in India whilst her husband was in military service.

    John T Wright
    Mabel A Wright
    George H Wright
    Bertha M Wright

    The birth certs for these children record her middle name as either Audeley or Audrey.

    The same confusion for the Marriage and Death Certs.

    Auderley on Marriage and Audrey on Death.

    The marriage records her father as John Henry Frost.

    The death cert records the DOB as 1st May 1882 !

    I've attached the actual certs.

    Hope you can help !

    Marriage Cert imm.io - Marriage Certificate Mabel Audeley Frost and John Thompson Wright May 10 1096.png

    Death Cert: imm.io - Death Certificate Mabel Audrey Frost 27 June 1975.png

    Child Birth: imm.io - Child Bertha Wright Born to Mabel AUDELEY Wright formally FROST 13 OCT 1913 Mhow INDIA.png

    Child Birth: imm.io - ChildJohn Wright Born to Mabel AUDREY Wright formally FROST 2 FEB 1907 Bangalor INDIA.png

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    Hallo,
    First of all I have to say what a joy to have such beautifully clear certificates. However did you manage to attach them so well... perfect!
    The one you need and haven't got is Mabel Audley Frost's birth cert. Born in 1881 in Kent somewhere maybe in the Folkestone area. It must be there somewhere(famous last words!). I'll have a rummage.

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    Thank you Lola.

    I tried the GRO but received this reply:-

    Thank you for your order as detailed below.
    Quantity Ordered = 1
    Childs Forename at Birth = Mabel
    Childs Surname at Birth = Frost
    Fathers/Parents Surname = John Frost
    Date of Birth dd-mon-yyyy = 01-MAY-1882
    Place of Event = Surrey
    Checking Point/Reference = AFN=A
    Application Number = 3360258 - 2
    Ordered item = Standard E/W Birth Full w/o GRO
    We have been unable to process your application, please refer to the paragraph below.
    We have searched the indexes for events registered in England and Wales during the years specified (1881-1883). We have been unable to find any entry with the details you provided.

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    Crumbs!
    I've been everywhere I can think of . No wonder you can't find her... but someone on here will!

    Is her father's name on marriage cert John HERNE Frost?
    Might she have been born abroad?
    Did you see a census entry that might be her?
    It was probably only Mabel and husband who were in Kent(Shorncliffe Barracks) so of course John H Frost could have come from anywhere.
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    Thanks for looking ;0)

    It is a tough one.

    From those who remember her she was defiantly southern and born here in the UK.

    Her husband was from Cheshire which is where they returned to after the war.

    The only reference to Surrey is the death cert.

    I read the fathers middle name to be Henry and the GRO print missed the whole of the Y out but it could be something else as you say?

    Just to add to the mix she is referred to in some old photos as 'Alice'
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    Rumour has it that her mother dies later in child birth.

    Father remarried to a women she did'nt like so she went into service for the Coleman 'Mustard' family which she didn't enjoy so set of to catch an army husband.

    I've looked into the Coleman family home and can't find her on the Census.

    She is also recorded as Alice on some old pictures !

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    Right! I'll give Slizzy a shout. .... SLIZZY! we need you
    If she went to work for Colman mustard family then she'd have been well looked after. I met an old lady on a train who was cook to the family and she told me how wonderfully "The Family" cared for it's employess.
    There's a 19 yr old servant born Wandsworth Surrey on 1901 census living in Hertford St Andrews?

    There is a John Frost in Banstead(born Old Buckingham Norfolk) on1891 census. Rg10/542/10/pge 13
    He is 39, wife Louisa 30 born Bath somerset, and three children Elizabeth 7, Ethel 4 and William 3.
    Father in law James Davis 80 (ag. lab), a gen lab. also born Bath. But no Mabel.

    Was there ever any mention of any siblings of Mabel?
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    Unfortunately no mention of a sibling other then the death of her mother in childbirth later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola5 View Post
    Right! I'll give Slizzy a shout. .... SLIZZY! we need you
    Sorry Lola, I've only just seen this as I've been involved with other searches. Your confidence in me may be shattered as, of yet I've not found anything. I will look in more depth tomorrow.

    I did find two John Frosts' in 1881 census whose occ's were Chemists but there was no Mabel or Alice with them.
    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA.

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    Many thanks both of you for the time spent on this

 

 

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