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    Default Civilian air raid victims.

    According to family whispers my aunt, a patient in the North Middlesex Hospital, Silver Street, Edmonton, London, was killed when it was hit during an air raid (1942?). The hospital have no records from that time but I was told that the IWM kept civilian victims records. They say not, so who does, if anyone? I have her name and DOB but no other details. Any help please.

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    Try these two sites
    London Borough of Enfield Homepage - Telephone: 020 8379 1000 - we welcome Text Relay calls. For more Information on Text relay visit the website on www.textrelay.org , Text Phone 020 8379 4998
    That has the Enfield local studies and archives info . They may be able to help you.
    Another site you might find interesting is Pymmes Villas, Silver Street, Edmonton, a casualty of the Edmonton blitz of World War Two
    This has a photo or two of silver st and may have some links. The links lead to interesting snippets of information by folk who lived there. There is a photo of the hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyk View Post
    According to family whispers my aunt, a patient in the North Middlesex Hospital, Silver Street, Edmonton, London, was killed when it was hit during an air raid (1942?). The hospital have no records from that time but I was told that the IWM kept civilian victims records. They say not, so who does, if anyone? I have her name and DOB but no other details. Any help please.
    Hello,
    Have you not been able to find her on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site? If she died as a result of hostilities she should be commemmorated there. :: CWGC ::
    Yours
    Victoria

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    Thanks for your replies. Didn't realise CWGC did civilian deaths. Tried it without success but revisited BMD and found someone who fits but in a different area, Camberwell. Looked up the hospitals, N Middx. hit by 6 He bombs, several buildings destroyed but nothing about deaths. Camberwell has the Kings College Hospital, used for the treatment of air raid victims. Now I'm wondering if she was injured, transfered to KCH and subsequently died there. Am sending off for death cert.. Will visit the other sites and try for more info.. Thanks again.

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    As far as I am aware CWGC do not do civilian deaths only armed forces, I could be wrong though. Anything at the national archives?. If you have an idea of the year of death you may be as well to send for the death cert. At least you will know what she died of!
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    Searching for Twizell, Brown & Storey from Northumberland. Kelly & Kinsella from Ireland, Parkinson from Lincolnshire. Mellor from Derbyshire and Jackson from Warwickshire.

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    Hi Pejay,

    CWGC do have some civilian deaths, here's an example. I'm not sure how comprehensive they are though.

    CWGC :: Casualty Details
    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA.

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    Well i stand corrected. Sorry tonyk didn't mean to give wrong info
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    Census information Crown copyright from The National Archives

    Searching for Twizell, Brown & Storey from Northumberland. Kelly & Kinsella from Ireland, Parkinson from Lincolnshire. Mellor from Derbyshire and Jackson from Warwickshire.

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    You are not alone pejay! I too thought the CWGC was only for military war dead.

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    I didn't know either peejay/Lola5 so it looks as if we have all learnt something. At least it got me thinking and I found another lead. I sometimes get stuck in a single train of thought and need a nudge from other people, so all comments are appreciated.

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    That's the beauty of AA's forums isn't it? We all learn from each other. Sharing information and expertise, I know I've learned a lot form other members.
    Census information Crown Copyright, in care of TNA.

 

 

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