Thread: West Yorkshire Archives look-up please

Hello I'm wondering whether anyone makes regular visits to wherever the Birstall Parish Records are kept, please? I would like confirmation of a rather strange name. It's a marriage that took place 22 May 1610. The names I have for this marriage are Thomas Mortimer and Agnes Wood.

However, I have been given to think this could be wrong and that the name of the groom is Espmab Mortimer which seems to be a unique name as I can't find it anywhere else. That is the given name, I know the surname is OK.

I wonder if the handwriting has been misinterpreted and hope that it will be possible for a very kind person with time on their hands, to check the original entry for me, please.

Living in hope,
Maid of Kent

A******ry have Yorkshire records, but I cant find the marriage you are looking for :-(

Originally Posted by Janet H.

A******ry have Yorkshire records, but I cant find the marriage you are looking for :-(

Thanks Janet, but that's why I am looking for somone who can actually go to see the records in the archives as I know that is where the record will be found.

Maid of Kent

Hello. I have found. Thomas Mortimer. Married Agnes Wood 22 May 1610

Thomas Born 1585.Birstall Yorkshire. Agnes B. 1589. Birstall. . Their Children. Thomas. 2 June 1611.Birstall
John. 1.August. Birstall. William 21 Jan. 1616. Birstall. Randolph. 30 April 1619. Birstall. Elizabeth. 19 April 1622. Birstall
Robert. 1624. Birstall. Death 14th Dec. 1631. Are these the Mortimers you are searching for.

Hello Again. I have found a Espmab Mortimer. Who Married Mrs Espman. in 1610. Birstall Yorkshire.
I will list all details then you may be the wiser.
William Mortimer Born 1550.Clarkharton. Birstall. Yotkshire
Mrs William Mortimer. Born 1550. Married 1670. Birstall.
Son. Espmab. 1585. Birstall. Now that is very strange but that is how it is listed.

Now I found that Espmab. Mortimer.Born 1585 Married a Mrs Espmab Mortimer
Born 1585 in 1610. Birstall.

Child. Thomas. Born 1612 Clarkharton Birstall
Thomas Married Mary Pickersgill 4 June 1648. Birstall
It seems that he had Married previously. to a Ann Liversage. 13 June 1638. Birstall.

That is all the Mortimers I have found that have the same dates of Marriage. as yours..

Originally Posted by Bronson211

Hello Again. I have found a Espmab Mortimer. Who Married Mrs Espman. in 1610. Birstall Yorkshire.
I will list all details then you may be the wiser.
William Mortimer Born 1550.Clarkharton. Birstall. Yotkshire
Mrs William Mortimer. Born 1550. Married 1670. Birstall.
Son. Espmab. 1585. Birstall. Now that is very strange but that is how it is listed.

Now I found that Espmab. Mortimer.Born 1585 Married a Mrs Espmab Mortimer
Born 1585 in 1610. Birstall.

Child. Thomas. Born 1612 Clarkharton Birstall
Thomas Married Mary Pickersgill 4 June 1648. Birstall
It seems that he had Married previously. to a Ann Liversage. 13 June 1638. Birstall.

That is all the Mortimers I have found that have the same dates of Marriage. as yours..

Hello Bronson 211,

Thank you very much for looking this up for me. Can I please ask where you found the information? It's strange that a marriage record has a spouse as "Mrs" and the husband's name. It's the kind of thing I have found on IGI.

Maid of Kent

Hello. yes I found it on the new Family search it was listed under tree information. Are any details
relating to your search. Remember sometimes Volunteers who compile all this information sometime miss read or mis spell
I am still tryimg to work out how a couple can marry in 1670 and have a child in 1585. I am rather intrigued with this search
if I can help further please let me know and I will go on A..... and have a look for more

Originally Posted by Bronson211

Hello. yes I found it on the new Family search it was listed under tree information. Are any details
relating to your search. Remember sometimes Volunteers who compile all this information sometime miss read or mis spell
I am still tryimg to work out how a couple can marry in 1670 and have a child in 1585. I am rather intrigued with this search
if I can help further please let me know and I will go on A..... and have a look for more

Hello Bronson,

Yes, I thought that was where you must have found it. And I can't accept that it is correct; especially when the marriage you refer to above was 1570 and not 1670. Shows up just how mistakes can be made.

However, I have just sent you a personal message which I do hope gets through to you as I had a bit of trouble with it. I might just go and send it to you a second time just in case. Or perhaps I could paste it here, I will try.

Hello Bronson,

Yes, this is the problem when accepting what someone else has posted on their Tree. And the reason why I want someone who is able to actually go to the archives for West Yorkshire, which I believe are in Halifax.

As far as the Thomas Mortimer/Johanna Best marriage is concerned, that took place as follows and written in Latin:

Yorkshire: Halifax - Registers of Marriages and Burials, 1538-1593

Ao Dni 1545 466

Marriages 1538--1593.

County: Yorkshire

Country: England

Thos Mortymer pe de Bradforthe et Johanna Best istius poch. 01 Feb 1545

So obviously not in Cornwall as Thomas was from Bradford, Johanna was from 'this Parish' and the marriage took place in the Halifax area. I do know the person who made the original assumption that this marriage was in Cornwall - he is a distant Mortimer cousin of mine, Robert Mortimer. Several others have accepted his information as correct without checking for themselves. This is what I am trying to do with the later marriage to Agnes Wood.

So, thanks, but I don't need you to send me this information. I will reply to your posting on the forum separately so that anyone else can see it if they wish.

I have deleted the last para from general viewing as it was more personal. You can see it on your personal message if it gets through.

Kind regards,
Maid of Kent