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    Thumbs up Grandfather - JAMES HARGREAVES (b1901 - d1948)

    Could someone plz do some research or look ups for my grandfather - JAMES HARGREAVES (b1901 - d1948) married Elizabeth Arkwright July 14th 1921 - St Pauls, Blackburn, Lancs. Lived at 10 Blakey Street, Blackburn at the time of this marriage. Is there any way I can find out what relationship to my grandfather/grandmother the witnesses where? I have names on the certificate if this is needed. He was a motor driver and uncertain who for etc etc.. need to know if there are any brothers or sisters belonging James.. any other info would be great.. Thanks.
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    Hi
    The 1911 census which we still have copyright issues with, so we can't give details. But from the 1901 we find your grandfather, who is the grandson of the Head of the household.

    HARGREAVES, Jonathan Head Married M 64 1837 Yeast Dealer Preston Lancashire
    HARGREAVES, Mary Ann Wife Married F 64 1837 Turton Lancashire
    LEAVER, Alice Sister-In-Law Single F 55 1846 Feeble Minded Preston Lancashire
    HARGREAVES, Jonathan Son Married M 28 1873 Yeast Dealer Blackburn Lancashire
    HARGREAVES, Elizabeth Dau-In-Law Married F 25 1876 Housekeeper Mellor Lancs
    HARGREAVES, Mary Eliz Grand Child Single F 4 1897 Blackburn Lancs
    HARGREAVES, Mary Ann Grand Child Single F 2 1899 Blackburn Lancs
    HARGREAVES, James Grand Child Single M 0 (2 MOS) 1901 Blackburn Lancs

    Apart from a change of address in the 1911, Jonathan & Elizabeth had had 5 children, four of whom were living. (George was born in 1905)
    The eldest child Mary Elizabeth, who was 14 in 1911 could have married a Edward Chadwick in 1918, or Thomas Goorman in 1923, or James Fish in 1924 or Frank Wymark in 1927 - Just incase they were one of the witnesses.

    But if you have the certificate, please would you post the names of the witnesses.
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    Hi Brian... Great work .. Thank you and the Chadwicks' ring a bell as they are on this certificate as witnesses..... Edward Chadwick and Mary Elizabeth Chadwick. As for Jonathan Hargreaves...( Son of the Head of house ) on the Marriage Cert of James his father John was deceased is this the same Jonathan you found and would they have used John for Jonathan - he was also a Yeast Dealer. Thank you so much... and not a problem to move this post to wherever you see fit and apt. Judith

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    England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
    Name: Mary E Hargreaves
    Spouse Surname: Chedwick
    Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
    Registration district: Blackburn
    Inferred County: Lancashire
    Volume Number: 8e
    Page Number: 545
    Spouse: Edward Chardwick
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    herre the two mary baptisms but cant find the others
    Baptisms: 2 May 1897 St Philip, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
    Mary Elizabeth Hargreaves - Daughter of Jonathan Hargreaves & Elizabeth
    Born: 21 Sep 1896
    Abode: 3 Essex Street
    Occupation: yeast dealer
    Baptised by: M. Shaw
    Register: Baptisms 1888 - 1900, Page 196, Entry 977
    Source: FHL Film 1470819

    Baptisms: 26 Jun 1898 St Luke, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

    Mary Ann Hargreaves - Child of Jonathan Hargreaves & Elizabeth
    Born: 26 May 1898
    Abode: 4 Essex St
    Occupation: Yeast Dealer
    Baptised by: J. Noble
    Register: Baptisms 1880 - 1900, Page 211, Entry 1685
    Source: LDS Film 1470819

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    this seems to be jonathon hargreaves ( son of household ) baptism

    Baptisms: 15 Sep 1872 St Peter, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
    Jonathan Hargreaves - Child of Jonathan Hargreaves & Mary Ann
    Born: 3 Jun 1872
    Abode: 18 Bank Top
    Occupation: beer seller
    Baptised by: C. W. Woodhouse
    Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1922, Page 75, Entry 743
    Source: LDS Film 1849642

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    and a sibling


    Baptisms: 9 Nov 1873 St Peter, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
    Mary Elizabeth Hargreaves - Child of Jonathan Hargreaves & Mary Ann
    Born: 16 Sep 1873
    Abode: 18 Bank Top
    Occupation: beer seller
    Baptised by: G. Burwell
    Register: Baptisms 1869 - 1922, Page 107, Entry 1069
    Source: LDS Film 1849642

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    Could someone plz find a date of birth for John Greenhalgh. He was the 2nd husband of my grandmother (Elizabeth) NEE ARKWRIGHT after James Hargreaves had died. They married 1951 possibly March in Blackburn. Many thanks.


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    Hi

    Please remeber that all information regardimng living persons MUST be sent by pm.
    However;
    Elizabeth born 1902, suggest she married someone near her age, First husband died in Blackburn, so looking for deaths in Blackburn of John Greenhalgh I find this:
    Name: GREENHALGH, John
    Registration District: Blackburn, Lancashire
    Registration: MAy 1995
    Month of Registration:
    Date of Birth: 17 February 1913
    District No: 5801B
    Reg No: B47B
    Ent No: 171
    DOR: 595

    You should find the birth record on FreeBMD.

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    Yes they married in the March quarter of 1951.. The district Blackburn is in the county of Lancashire
    GREENHALGH John HARGREAVES Blackburn 10b 867....
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