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    Default NANTWICH PARISH RECORDS IN MARCH 1863 AND MARCH 1866 and FEBRUARY 1855

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    I have a Randle Farmer born Nantwich and on the CPR site it says it was a multiple birth in 1866 and Daniel died in 1866
    I thought Randle was born in 1863 can anyone help sort the problem
    ALSO WAS THE BIRTH IN 1855 OF Eliza and William a twin birth or was it just they were christened together.
    son/daughter of Robert Farmer cordwainer and Elizabeth nee Joynson

    any other info also would be good. Thanks

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    Certainly on the freeBMD site a Randle Farmer was registered in March qr 1863 Nantwich 8a 318. I can find a death for a Daniel Farmer March qr 1866 Nantwich 8a 278. they do not however appear to be connected. If you sent for Daniel's birh cert it would tell you who the parents were.
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    On FreeBMD, Elizabeth is born in 1854 Qtr 3 Natwich 8a Page 282, while William is born 1855 Qtr 2 8a Page 327. they could have just been baptised together?

    Do you have any census references for the parents, as I can find a Robert & Elizabeth in Nantwich, where he is a groom , Head Groom, but no son called William . Census show they had 7 children, all of whom survived.

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    Robert Farmer and Elizabeth nee Joynson lived in Wall Lane and he was a Cordwainer or shoemaker.
    Robert the groom I think will be their eldest son. There was also a William father of Robert in Wall Lane

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    There is a baptism for Daniel farmer , Nantwich Cheshire,24 Feb 1866 parents Robert farmer and Elizabeth.
    A death for Daniel Farmer aged 0 1866 Nantwich cheshire 8a.278. Jan/Feb/March quarterl

    Here is the 1861 census. Nantwich Cheshire
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    Wall Lane,
    Robert Farmer head, 44. shoe maker born Nantwich cheshire
    Elizabeth Farmer wife 36 boot binder
    Robert Farmer son 16 shoe maker
    Samuel farmer son 13
    Eliza Farmer dau. 10
    William Farmer son 5
    James Farmer son 3
    Richard Farmer son 1

    All are born Nantwich Cheshire

    So you can see that Eliza and William are born 5 years apart.
    It was quite usual to have children in a family baptised at the same time regardless of age.
    That Eliza was 8 months in the 1851 census.
    She grew up and married John Jones.
    On the 1871 census you will find Randle who was born in 1863 and died in 1938.
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    By 1871 Elizabeth was a widow
    Census 1871 Nantwich Cheshire
    Source citation; Class RG10, Piece 3713. Folio 22. P 35
    Crown Copyright in care of TNA
    Wall Lane
    Elizabeth Farmer head wid. 46 Cordwainer's widow
    William farmer son 15 joiner
    James farmer son 13 Bricksetter
    Richard Farmer son 11 scholar
    RANDLE farmer son 8 scholar
    John Jones lodger 23 Railway lab
    All were born Nantwich

    And next door lived John Farmer 46 cordwainer with wife Amy and family. This John was surely a relative of Robert(maybe younger brother?)

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    I have a Randle Farmer born Nantwich and on the CPR site it says it was a multiple birth in 1866 and Daniel died in 1866
    I thought Randle was born in 1863 can anyone help sort the problem
    According to CPR, Daniel was baptisd 24/02/1866

    Randle & Richard were baptised 23/12/1866 Randle was aged 4 and Richard 7

    I think you will find that 'mutiple / twin x 2 ' indicates 2 children from the same family baptised on the same date.

    If in doubt suggest you obtain a cpy of the original parish record entry from Chester RO
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    thanks a lot thats sorted out the query. thank you for your help

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    this is father roberts baptism - 12 sep 1916

    NANTC05600415.10117
    nantC0415.1
    NANT
    8160912
    ROBERT
    M
    father - WILL
    mother - SARAH
    surname - FARMER
    CORDWR
    NANT



    and here is brother john - 18 mar 1820

    NANTC05700417.10195
    nantC0417.1
    NANT
    8200330
    JOHN
    M
    father - WILLIAM
    mother -SARAH
    surname -FARMER
    SHOEMAKER
    NANT
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    not sure if you have these:

    there is also another brother william baptised 01 Jan 1818, a sister Hannah baptised 17 Jan 1822, brother john baptised 17 sept 1823 (suggesting first John died), and Henry 25 Nov 1825

 

 

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