Chas Archer

**Col42** · 02-09-2011 10:09 AM

I am trying to establish the wife of Chas Archer born about 1863 in Croydon, Surrey, England. I know from the 1901 census he was married to a Mary and lived in Shadwel, Leeds but I would like to confirm her maiden name. Searching A******y.com the results I get is that she was Mary Ann Norman b: 1861 at Compton Dundon, Somerset. This doesn't ring true because the census states she was born in Yorkshire. When they were married they lived in Shadwell nr Leeds in Yorkshire were my grandmother Elizabeth Archer was born 1886. Any one Help?

**The Lady Marion** · 02-09-2011 10:17 AM

Hello Col42, I take it Charles and Mary were your Great Grandparents so do you have a copy of your Grandmothers birth certifcate as it will state Mothers maiden name?

**Bronson211** · 02-09-2011 12:17 PM

Hello Col 42. This maybe the Marriage : Charles( Ernest) Archer 22. Cutter Address. 4.Carter Street.New Worsley.
Father. John Scott Archer. Fitter
Mary Ann Gooding. 24. Dressmaker. 219.Park Lane.
Father. Robert Gooding. Draper. Deceased
Married on the 29th August. 1886. St Andrews. Leeds. Yorkshire.
Witnesses.. Robert Henry Gooding.
Elizabeth.Hannah Gooding. ( This maybe the Mother Name)
Ref. P62/20/10. Page 55. Number. 110

If not the right one I will check Records again for you You have only to say.

**milford_lass** · 02-09-2011 12:48 PM

Col

there is a member on a******y with charles archer born 1863 with his wife as mary ann norman, the person who owns the
tree is g roberts is this you first ??

IN 1901 IT DOESNT STATE THEY LIVE WITH GRANDMOTHER ELIZABETH

**Col42** · 02-09-2011 02:11 PM

Hi Milford Lass
I have seen the tree you mention. No thats not me, I have also seen other trees that state Mary Ann Norman was Chases wife but you get a lot of record copying on Ancestry the trouble is if one is wrong everyone is. I have seen marriage records for Mary that also state she was married to some one with the surname Shepard thats my problem.

Elizabeth was my Grandmother their daughter.

**Col42** · 02-09-2011 02:18 PM

Hi Bronson211

Thanks for the reply. I don't think this is the one I'm after, I'm pretty sure my Chas Archer was born in 1863 in Crydon, Surrey, England and his father was David Archer born in Fife Scotland

**Col42** · 02-09-2011 02:21 PM

Hi Lady Marion,

No I havent got a copy of their Mariage certificate so that may be my next step.
Thanks for the reply

**Bronson211** · 02-09-2011 03:21 PM

I Have found a Charles With Wife Mary on the 1901 Census. Charles is listed as Born in Essex.
Mary Yorkshire. Daughters : Elizabeth. 14yrs. Born Scarecroft.Yorkshire.:Annia. 11. Shadwell. Nellie.9.Shadwell
Rose.7. Shadwell. Lily.3.Shadwell
Parish St Pauls's Shadwell. Address. 24.Galelan Lane Shadwell Yorkshire

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**Col42** · 02-09-2011 05:08 PM

Thanks Bronson211

They are my great grandparents and Elizabeth 14yrs was my grandmother but Mary who? I need a surname.

**welshlady** · 02-09-2011 07:34 PM

same family as 1901 in 1891 census
charles 29 born felstead essex, farm labourer
mary 29 born yorkshire
children mary E(6) born york selby, lizzie (4) born scarcroft and annie (1) born shadwell
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felstead essex is nowhere near croydon so why so you think the charles with father david in croyden is yours?

could this be charles in 1881

Name: Charles Archer
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1861
Birthplace: Radwenton, Essex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation: Farm Servant Indoor
Address: Manor House
Census Place: Oulston, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1342162
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4817 / 31
Page Number: 3
Collection: England and Wales Census, 1881
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that would put him up inthe right area of the country to meet and marry a yorkshire girl?

one poss marriage up there

Charles Archer

Jul-Aug-Sep 1883

York

Yorkshire East Riding

9d

57

bride = mary mcintyre

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