Thread: More Bull's in Hampshire (Romany)

Hi David - I have had a look at the births and found this one - it wasthe only one in the parish records for Hampshire..

14 October 1792 son Luke Ball born at VineLodge, East Sherborne, travelling Paupers

Bramley Hamshire

First parent Wm

Second parent Rosamund

and the marriage is

22 : May 1811 Bull Luke to James Ann :

Parish: Hurstbourne Priors

County: Hampshire

I have had a look at this reference for 1851 for Luke Bull...HO107/1681/~F478

It says on 1861 census he was a widower for 12 years but here it appear that it is Ester as his wife with a 26 year old son.

So now I am slightly confused having done the above. The son would be born in 1825 unless his mother was the previous wife or there is more than one Luke Ball

On the 1841 there are different details which just dont tally-sorry not to be more conclusive

The Luke in 1861 is the right Luke - He is living with George Bull his son by Ann James

Name:George Bull
Gender:Male
Baptism/Christening Date:14 Nov 1824
Baptism/Christening Place:WHITCHURCH,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name:Luke Bull
Mother's Name:Ann
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:J13930-1
System Origin:England-ODMSource Film Number:1041304Reference Number:

Bandit (thanks for the good work) has found this marriage
22 : May 1811 Bull Luke to James Ann :
Parish: Hurstbourne Priors

The ages in the census don't concern me too much George barely aged himself over a 30 year period in the census!


Luke supposedly was from sherborne
in 1851 he is listed as from Branley
in 1861 he is listed as from Sherborne


The census seems to concur with Bandits baptism


Guess I need to see the marriage from 1811 and see if the parents are listed to be certain

Hi Dave I had a look at the 1871 census and here are my findings

BULL, Luke 1819 42 M born Andover Hampshire

BULL, Luke 1857 4 M born Andover Hampshire

BULL, Luke 1786 75 M born Kingsclere Hampshire


1819 parents Luke and Elizabeth whose son is 1857 Luke


1786 parents George and Jane whose son was born in 1786
does this make it easier to understand . I could look for the othe rmarriage as well

Hi Dave - dont forget that Sherborne is in Dorset; the problem is that there are no Lukes there; there are those in Hampshire tho.

Thanks bandit I was assuming the sherborne, referred to some of the little places in Hampshire like Monks Sherborne and Sherborn St John. Did you have a baptism for 1786 in Kingsclere? A lot of my family came from that area and that is the date I was given from a Romany family tree. Luke seems to have a family failing not to change ages through the census'.

If there is a Luke from 1786 in Kingsclere that may very well be the right Luke , although the later Luke is probably better in terms of place - Bramley is in East Sherborne and Luke claims to be from Bramley and Sherborne respectively.

Could you post the census details for Luke as I don't have access.

Thanks for the help Bandit

Hi Bandit - here is the 1871 details as requested -they were in New Street Andover

BULL, Luke Head 52 1819 Wiltshire

BULL, Elizabeth Wife 52 1819 Hampshire

BULL, Hannah Daughter 29 1842 Hampshire

BULL, Stephen Son 20 1851 Hampshire

BULL, William Son 18 1853 Hampshire

BULL, Emily Daughter 16 1855 Hampshire

BULL, Luke Son 14 1857 Hampshire

BULL, Elizabeth Daughter 12 1859 Hampshire

BULL, Job W Son 10 1861 Hampshire

BULL, Beatrice Daughter 6 1865 Hampshire

ALEXANDER, John Servant 31 1840 Wiltshire

TAYLOR, William Servant 19 1852 Hampshire

PETTER, Divey Servant 16 1855 Hampshire

the first marriage was this


22 May 1811 Luke Bull Married Ann James at HurstbournePriors
the second marriage was this

Luke Bull in Bassingstoke 1838 2nd quarter married Elizabeth Doe Vol 7 page 65