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    Default Can't find any birth record for Phoebe Parmenter c.1844

    Hi All,

    I am attempting to locate the birth record for Phoebe Parmenter, who I have found on the 1881 cenus in the West Ham Union and Poor Law school as a cook.

    It labels her place of birth as London, Middlesex and she is noted as aged 37.

    I have done extensive searches around 1843/44/45 and cannot find any entry.

    Are there any other avenues I can take ?

    Thanks
    Dan

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    Hi Dan,

    I'm wondering if Phoebe is a middle name which she preferred to use as I've had no luck pinning her down on census records before 1881!

    Or, she could have been living under a different surname if for example her father died when she was young and her mother remarried. I note her father was entered as deceased on her marriage certificate.

    I'll see if I can uncover anything and if I do I'll get back to you.
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    Dan,

    I found this christening record which very well could be her with a surname misspelling.

    residence:Leyton, Essex, England parents:Robert Pammenter, Priscilla
    record title:England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    name:Phoebe Pammenter gender:Female
    baptism/christening date:04 Oct 1846
    baptism/christening place:Leyton, Essex, England
    father's name:Robert Pammenter
    mother's name:Priscilla

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    And here's the above Phoebe in the 1851 census, name mistranscribed again, but the original return does look like Parmenter. HO107; Piece: 1769; Folio: 92; Page: 33

    Living Leyton

    Priscilla Pamestore 32, widow, Charwoman, born Shoreditch
    Robert Pamestore 12, Shoreditch

    Phoebe Pamestore 7, Huckney Rd ????????????
    Sarah Pamestore 5, Leyton
    Allen Pamestore 2, Leyton

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    1861, yet again indexed with a misspelling, the original isn't easy to read as the enumerator ran out of space and wrote Parmer and continued above with ster, unfortunately Phoebe isn't at home with her mother. RG9; Piece: 1061; Folio: 41; Page: 5;

    Living Walthamstow

    Princella Parmer 45, widow,
    Robert Parmer 22
    Allen Parmer 12

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    In 1871 Priscilla with a correct spelling - at last! Living alone in Walthamstow, age 55

    RG10; Piece:
    1636; Folio: 57; Page: 4

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    Posting this Dan, and then really must go to bed for some beauty sleep!

    A possible marriage for Robert and Priscilla

    Mar qrt 1843, Hackney, 3/104

    Robert Pammenter, also indexed Priscilla Martin

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    Ok, so I told a little white lie , but I'm definitely going to get some shuteye after posting this. From the Ancestry London Marriages database.

    Feb 21st 1843 (Parish of St John Jerusalem) Parish Church, South Hackney.

    Robert Pammenter, bachelor, full age, Labourer, John Street, father: Robert Pammenter a Labourer
    Priscilla Martin, spinster, full age, John Street, father: Thomas Martin a Carpenter.

    Witnesses: Robert Parmenter and William ???? could be Drevett or Drewett
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    Robert's death reg???? If this is the same guy Sarah and Allen cannot be his children!! I can't find another death which fits.

    Name: Robert Pamenter Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1844 Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex, Greater London Volume: 1[2] Page: 206
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    Excellent work Slizzy..

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