Thread: Margaret Agnes Millar nee Hyslop South Africa

Greetings from a first time user,
I have been researching my family tree/genealogy for a few years now
with some good successes: however one area is proving impossible. My maternal grandmother, Margaret Agnes Hyslop, born Pietermarizburg South Africa 1883, married first to a Walter Millar, before marrying my grandfather at St Pancras London, June 1913. I have a copy cert. where she is described as the divorced wife of Walter Millar. My grandfather was Charles Ernest Daniel. I can find no record of MAD's first marriage or divorce. I am particularly interested as to whether any children ensued from the first marriage and indeed when she arrived in England prior to her 2nd marriage. I have found her on passenger lists arriving from Durban 1903 and leaving 1904, both as Miss M.A. Hyslop, but after that, nothing. Family rumour from SA cousins is that she went to Australia to marry Millar: however I can find no Australian, South African or indeed English records of marriage or divorce concerning Millar ??
My grandfather CED, left Haileybury school at the age of 16 in 1904, but again I can find no record of him before his marriage in 1913. He does not appear on the 1911 census; so I suspect that he could well have been abroad, perhaps South Africa ? He served throughout
WW1 in the 4th Battalion Loyal North Lancashire Regiment, which I understand was a territorial battalion, becoming Captain in 1915. Any help/tips would be appreciated

Hi Roger,

Firstly, I welcome you to AA and wish you success with your research.

Am I right in understanding you haven't found Charles Ernest Daniel on ANY UK census? Please can you give us details from the marriage certificate, eg father's name and occupation, witnesses names etc. Do you know where Charles was born? Was Margaret Agnes Hyslop definitely born in SA, or is that where she lived prior to her 1913 marriage? Also please add any other info which may help us to help you.

Thanks, Slizzy

Originally Posted by Roger Gosling

: My grandfather CED, left Haileybury school at the age of 16 in 1904, but again I can find no record of him before his marriage in 1913. He does not appear on the 1911 census; so I suspect that he could well have been abroad, perhaps South Africa ?

Roger, incase you don't have these I thought it useful to post them.

1891 census, living Toxteth Park, Liverpool. RG12; Piece: 2940; Folio 53; Page 39

Joseph H Daniel 31, School Master (M.A. Oxford), born York, Yorkshire
Charlotte H Daniel 31, born New South Wales
Violet Daniel 6, Pembury, Kent
Robert E Daniel 5, Hereford
Charles E Daniel 3, Hereford
Frances Price 22, Cook Domestic
Emma Clapp 21, Housemaid
E Anne Thomas 27, Nurse

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1901 census, 41 and 42, South Crescent, Filey. Birth places for Charlotte and Charles don't agree with 1891. RG13; Piece: 4528; Folio: 66; Page: 25.

Joseph Herbert Daniel 41, Head Master of Preparatory School (employer) born York
Charlotte Henrietta Daniel 41, born Hereford
Charles Earnest Daniel 12, Filey
Minnie Eiler Daniel 3

Roger,

What was your Grandfather's occupation; any chance he was a Fruiterer?

Do you have a copy of Charles' will? It's in the Index of Wills and Administrations, on Ancestry. I can post details for you to apply for a copy if you don't have them.