Register
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    AA Member Newbie Jean V is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10

    Default Christopher Pottinger and Elizabeth Clark

    I hope that someone will be able to help me trace the birth my great, great, great grandparents, Christopher Pottinger and Elizabeth Clark

    They were married on 27 Dec 1813 at St Andrew's Church, Holborn, London and I have a copy of their marriage record. One of the witnesses is Jane Clark and I wondered if this could be Elizabeth's mother or sister.

    There is nothing on the marriage record about their parents.

    I am trying desperately to find a birth for Christopher and Elizabeth and their parents. Please can anyone point me in the right direction.

    Many thanks and fingers crossed.

  2. #2
    AA Member Respected Member milford_lass is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Pembrokeshire
    Posts
    737

    Default

    what are their ages jean ??
    Milford Lass

  3. #3
    AA Member Respected Member milford_lass is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Pembrokeshire
    Posts
    737

    Default

    heres a elizabeth clark


    record title: England and Wales, Non-Conformist
    Record Indexes (RG4-8)
    name: Elizabeth Clark
    event type: Birth
    birth date: 08 Mar 1780
    birthplace: Aldersgate Street, St Botolphs, Middlesex
    father's name: John Clark
    mother's name: Mary Clark
    record set: RG5_011
    Milford Lass

  4. #4
    AA Member Newbie Jean V is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10

    Default

    Thank you for coming back to me. Unfortunately I don't know their ages.

    The marriages record just says married with consent. But there is a line drawn through that, so I wondered if this means they didn't need consent as they were both over 21.

    There is no information to say whether they were single or widowed. So do I assume from this that they were both single?

    There is also no address for either of them. It just says, 'of this Parish'. I know that means they were living at St Andrew's Holborn at the time of their marriage, but it doesn't necessarily mean that either of them were born there.

    I have also found a Baptism of an Elizabeth Clark on 8 Sep 1793. Parents John and Elizabeth Clark. This was in City of London in the Parish of St Bartholomew the Great. But I don't know if it's the right Elizabeth.

    I can't find anything on Christopher.
    But I do know he was a butcher. I got this information from the Baptism records of his children. (I also know from family members that there were a number of butchers in the Pottinger family)

    I tried to gauge Elizabeth's age from the births of her children. (A bit hit and miss, but I'm clutching at straws)
    I have found ten children, although there may be some I haven't discovered yet.

    The first was Alfred born 1814
    The last was Frederick born 1833.

    I have assumed that Elizabeth was about 21 years old when she married and therefore when Frederick was born she would have been about 41. That sort of makes sense taking into account her child-baring years.

    I hope some of this information will be able to help

    Thanks Jean

  5. #5
    AA Member Respected Member milford_lass is an unknown quantity at this point
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Pembrokeshire
    Posts
    737

    Default

    the births wud be hit and miss hun because of infant deaths, look on family search .org there are a few christiopher pottingers
    Milford Lass

  6. #6
    AA Member Newbie Jean V is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10

    Default

    Thanks for trying. Back to the drawing board now.

  7. #7
    AA Moderator slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    23,534

    Default

    Hi Jean V,

    I have just been reading through your posts. Have you found Christopher or Elizabeth on any census returns, if so please will you post details? If not, have you found their children on censuses?

  8. #8
    AA Moderator slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute slizzy has a reputation beyond repute
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    23,534

    Default

    I did find the marriage of Sarah Pottinger to William Coomber, St Marylebone 1838, father Christopher Nicholls Pottinger, Butcher (deceased). Have you found a burial record for Christopher?

  9. #9
    AA Member Newbie Jean V is on a distinguished road
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    London
    Posts
    10

    Default

    I'll give you the information I have found so far.

    Christopher and Elizabeth were married in 1813.

    I have found 10 children born to Christopher and Elizabeth
    Alfred born 1814
    Robert born 1817
    Walter born 1819
    Mary Ann born 1820
    Peter born 1821
    Jane born 1823
    Thomas born 1824
    Charles born 1826
    Emma born 1828
    Frederick born 1833

    I know there may be others, but these are the only ones I have found baptism records for. The baptism records all give date of birth and baptism and parent's names, Christopher and Elizabeth Pottinger.

    I believe that Elizabeth may have died in 1834. About the same time as her youngest child, Frederick.

    I know that Christopher died before 1846. On his son Peter's marriage certificate it states father's name and occupation and says deceased.
    On all the records for his children that I have found he is Christopher, not Christopher Nicholls.

    There is a death for Christopher Nicholls Pottinger in 1837. But it gives his approximate date of birth as 1766. This would make him 47 years old when he married Elizabeth. Not unheard of, but a bit unusual. She was obviously much younger than him because of the number of children she produced.

    I believe that Sarah Pottinger who married William Coomber is related in some way, but I cannot find any birth or baptism record for her.
    This seemed a bit odd as all the other children were baptised. (Sometimes they left it for a while and two or three were baptised together)

    There is also another 'child' Elizabeth. Again I can find no birth or baptism record for her. But she is related because it was her who registered Peter's death in 1852. (She was then Elizabeth Sheppard)

    I did wonder if Sarah and Elizabeth were daughters of Christopher Pottinger from a previous marriage. I've no proof whatsoever and I cannot find a previous marriage.

    I have found the children in various census records but not the parents, Christopher or Elizabeth Pottinger.

    I hope this information helps you.

    Thanks
    Jean

 

 

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Back to Top

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.1

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276