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    Default Steel Family Tree.. can't find info on births in India

    Hi All.. working on the family tree and can not find any information on my Grandmother or any of her siblings. My grandmother Patricia Carmeni Steel (1921- 1985) parents Charles Henry Steel (1888 -1936) and Florence Gladys Steel (1891-1968) were from England and moved to Calcutta India to work for the Royal Engineers in the Indian Army. In India they had 5 children and around 1930ish they moved back to England where Charles Henry died shortly after. I can not find any birth records of any of the 5 children which would provide confirmation of their names as currently I am still unsure.

    Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions on how i could gain this information?

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    i found this birth

    Births Mar 1887
    STEEL Charles Henry Newport, M. 11a 191

    cannot find birth for 1888
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    what are the names of the children ??
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    Hewllo

    You may need to contact this society who specialise in India famillies in British India Society

    To search in the UK we need an area / county / town, you will note that milford_lass has speculatively shown a possible birth for Charles Henry in Wales!

    CHarles Henry do you know the actual date of birth or death and the area?

    Florence Gladys, do you know her maiden name, actual date of birth or death and the area and her year and place of marriage

    Do you know the time line in India?

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    A Charles H Steel married Florence G Jones Jun qrt 1915, Haverfordwest, 11a/2527

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    There's lots of Florence Jones birth registrations for 1891/2, but I found only two Florence Gladys Jones and both were born in Camberwell.
    You really need to get a birth certificate for one of the couples children which will give mother's maiden name.
    Do you know if any of their children were born in the UK? If so do you have names?
    There are a couple of 'Steel' births in Wales with mmn Jones: Stephen J Steel, Dec qrt 1916, Pontypridd, 11a/905, and Charles R A Steel, Jun qrt 1919, Llanelly, 11a/1749.

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    I think they are the family on this passenger list.

    UK Incoming Passenger Lists 1878 - 1960

    Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia Arrival Date: 4 Mar 1932 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Sydney
    [Melbourne]
    [Adelaide]
    [Colombo]
    [Bombay] Ship Name: Mongolia

    Proposed address in UK: 8, Harbour View Rd, Penarth.

    Charles H Steel 45, Engineer.
    F. Gladys Steel 40
    Stephen J, 15
    Patricia 10
    Josephine 8
    Stuart H 6
    Edith Ann 5
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    As I cannot find births of any of the children born after Stephen J Steel, I assume the four youngest were born in India.

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    1891 census. Cardiff, RG12; Piece: 4389; Folio 42; Page 18
    Tesesa Steel 40 wife, Tailoress, born Bristol
    Tresesa C Steel 19 dau Tailoress, born Bristol
    Edith M Steel 12 Shields Durham
    Josephine Steel 10 Shields Durham
    Charles H Steel 4, Newport
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    1901, Cardiff, RG13; Piece: 4975; Folio: 148; Page: 42
    Stephen Steel 51 Ship Rigger, Bridgewater Somerset
    Teresa Steel 51
    Edith Steel 22
    Josephine Steel 20 Pupil Teacher (Church School)
    Charles Steel 14

 

 

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