Thread: Elizabeth Duncan

Looking for Elizabeth Duncan born abt 1872 Mancester and married Albert Ernest Gibson 1907 cardiff They were together in 1901 with 3 children ellen (allen) albert and Edith. I am not sure whether I have the correct one before that date. On the marriage cert it says her father is John a labourer the witnesses are no help either .I foud a family in Ardwick Lancashire John was a watchman How can I be sure its the right family

I have marriage cert Albert Ernest was 45 years old in Oct 1907 and Elizabeth Duncan was 36, Bachelor and Spinster.
His Father was Henry a Paper maker and hers was John Duncan a labourer I know his father was a paper maker. Adwick is a suberb of Manchester As I said I have found an Elizabeth Duncan born 1874 living with Father John and mother Mary Class RG11 Piece3897Foli068Page 7 Henry in 1891 was with his family Henry and elizabeth Class RG12 Piece 1139 Folio 43Page 30

Hi,

I know you said the witnesses were no help, but could you please tell us their names?

Originally Posted by slizzy

Hi,

I know you said the witnesses were no help, but could you please tell us their names?

J Dickson and Kate Wright

Originally Posted by robrhiwbina

Looking for Elizabeth Duncan born abt 1872 Mancester and married Albert Ernest Gibson 1907 cardiff They were together in 1901 with 3 children ellen (allen) albert and Edith. I am not sure whether I have the correct one before that date. On the marriage cert it says her father is John a labourer the witnesses are no help either .I foud a family in Ardwick Lancashire John was a watchman How can I be sure its the right family

Hi, I presume this is the census you refer to? RG11; Piece: 3897; Folio: 68; Page: 7.

As this Elizabeth appears to be the only one who fits age wise and with a father named John I think it probably is 'your' Elizabeth. This Elizabeth seems to have been born in 1871 Jul-Sept, Ardwick, Manchester (Lancs bmd site). I cannot find her parents in 1891, have you found them after 1881? There is a possible death for her mother Mary: Sept 1882, Chorlton, age 38, 8c/443. And one for father John: Jun 1885, Chorlton, age 51, 8c/442. I'm not convinced the 1881 census has John's occupation as a Watchman, the writing is not clear at all but it doesn't look like Watchman to me. Perhaps someone else can take a look and give an opinion?

I note 'your' Elizabeth had a daughter named Edith, could she have been named after sister Edith aged 5 in 1881 census?

Originally Posted by slizzy

I'm not convinced the 1881 census has John's occupation as a Watchman, the writing is not clear at all but it doesn't look like Watchman to me.

I have now found John in 1871 and yes he was a Watchman. Does the marriage certificate say if Elizabeth's father was deceased?

Strangely however the 1871 has John 35, Thomas 11 and Mary 2. Thomas was entered as 14 in 1881???. Also Mary (mother) isn't with them but John's status is married.

I suggest you look at marriages and deaths for Elizabeth Duncan's and if there are none which fit with the one in 1881 assume you've found your gal. I cannot think of any other way to prove or disprove whether she's yours.

Thankyou so much for your help No it doesnt say John Duncan it deceased so thats a puzzle I would be happier if I could find Elizabeth Duncan in 1891 census Her Husband to be is with his Parents in 1981 in Wycombe Bucks

Yes, it would be a great help if we could find her in 1891. I have searched but so far been unsuccessful. Have you looked for the siblings of Elizabeth Duncan (father John, mother Mary)? Also where was Mary in 1871?

Whether or not they are your ancestors', their daughter Elizabeth cannot be found in 1891, yet! If the deaths I posted are Elizabeth's parents' she is most likely either in service, or staying with family. I think I found Edith in service, but I've not looked for the other siblings.