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    Exclamation John and Elizabeth WEEDON, Hertfordshire

    Hello
    I have come across a massive brick wall and hope that someone here can help me out.
    My great-great-great grandfather Samuel Weedon (or Weeden) was born in 1788 or 1789 (christened on 8/2/1789) in Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. His parents were John and Elizabeth Weedon.
    I suspect that John was born in 1764 (son of John and Elizabeth ) but have no concrete proof of this. There are way too many John Weedons in Herts. during the same period! Samuel appears to be the oldest child of the couple so I suspect that John and Elizabeth would have been married in the late 1780's.
    I have found various John Weedon-Elizabeth marriages but none of them fit in and I have no idea what her maiden name was.
    I would really like to identify John and Elizabeth as they are the stumbling block to going back any further. If Samuel's father John was indeed the one born in 1764, I can trace his ancestors back another 3 or 4 generations but I don't want to work on suppositions.
    I don't live in England, so I can't get to check records in person. Thanks in advance for your help.

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    Hello

    Presumably this is the entry you refer to
    christening:08 Feb 1789 — ABBOTS LANGLEY,HERTFORD,ENGLAND
    Parents:John Weedon, Elizabeth
    record title:England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    name:Samuel Weedon
    gender:Male
    baptism/christening date:08 Feb 1789
    baptism/christening place:ABBOTS LANGLEY,HERTFORD,ENGLAND
    father's name:John Weedon
    mother's name:Elizabethindexing project (batch) number:J07200-1system origin:England-ODMsource film number:991336
    Last edited by Elsabels; 27-04-2011 at 04:42 PM.

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    You probably need to check for siblings of Samuel to establish the year John & Elizabeth married.

    Speculatively I can find a child William bp 28/06/1786 St Albans and John 27 /10 1776 Watford both desc as being if John & Elizabeth, who could be Samuel's siblings.

    You need to look at the original Parish Register entry.

    Researching out of the UK, no problem, check out the research centres at this link Familysearch centre Spain

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    Thank you, Elsabels.

    I have found three younger sisters for Samuel, all born to John and Elizabeth and baptised in Abbots Langley.
    I also found the William you mentioned.
    Unfortunately there are also 5 more children baptised in Abbots Langley, children of John Weedon (no mention of mother's name):
    James 1778
    William 1780
    John 1782
    Thomas 1783
    Elizabeth 1787.

    Without knowing exact details of John and the mysterious Elizabeth it's pretty impossible to know if these are all siblings, if there are two families, or maybe one father and two different mothers.

    The William you mention b. 1786 appears to be the son of John Weedon and Elizabeth HITCHCOCK, who was my prime candidate. However, according to the LDS she died in 1790 (as did William), though I am not too convinced by the accuracy of this submission. If it's true, she can't be the mother of Samuel's siblings who were born in 1791, 1793 and 1795.

    I think I need to find someone in Hertfordshire to do a look-up for me! Thanks for the link to the LDS centres but there is not a centre anywhere near where I live. Do you know if they will deal with enquiries by post or other means?

    I'm very grateful for your assistance and advice
    Best wishes

    Bevj

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    John WEEDON = Elizabeth HITCHCOCK 02/02/1786 St Stephens

    1) William bp 25/06/1786 - 09/04/1790 s/o JW & EH St Stephens
    2) James 20/10/1788 -17/01/1789 s/o JW & EH St Stephens
    3) Elizabeth bp 23/01/1790 .................Elizabeth nee HITCHCOCK died 23/01/1790 probably in childbirth St Stephens

    John WEEDON & Elizabeth d/m unknown

    a) Samuel bp 08/02/1789 Abbots Langley
    b) Hannah bp 27/03/1791 St Stephens
    c) Charlotte bp 03/03/1792 St Stephens
    d) Elizabeth bp 05/04/1795 St Stephens
    e) Susannah bp 05/04/1798 St Stephens

    Looking at the baptism dates I would consider there to be 2 famillies here,

    Why not apply to the RO for copies of the entries so you caan look and analise them yourself, they may charge P&P and a small charge for getting the records out! Include the marriage certificate and the death entrys'

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    Last edited by Elsabels; 27-04-2011 at 10:34 PM.

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    Thanks!
    I'll let you know if I get anywhere.

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    Sorry about the double post, Elsabels, but may I ask where you found the info in post #5? I have a) to d) Samuel to Elizabeth all baptised in Abbots Langley and Susannah is new to me (though Samuel did name one of his daughters Susan).
    St. Stephens doesn't surprise me since the Hertfordshire militia lists show no John Weedons in Abbots Langley though there is at least one in St. Stephens.
    Hannah Weedon's place of birth is on Censuses as Abbots Langley.
    From your info there seem to have been at least two, possible three, John Weedons, and two Elizabeth Weedons
    No wonder I'm in a muddle.

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    Hello bevj

    I went on the 'old' site IGI of familysearch.org.

    When you access the new site, if you look on the RHS in blue you will see 'go to previous site' select 'search records' then off hte LHS International Genealogical Information.

    I entered the parents names as John WEEDON and Elizabeth, christnings cannot remebr if I put in a year +/- British England Hertford.....

    Sorry to go to basics....very little came up on the new site!

    I decided that there may be 1 John Weedon and 2 wives Elizabeth or 2 seprate famillies. If the latter I would have expected the officiating minister to distinquish the family in the Parish Record, either by employment / abode etc.

    Where they were born may be different to where they were baptised!

    elsabels

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    Thanks!!
    It's not the first time I've found info on the old site that isn't on the new one!
    All the best
    Bevj

 

 

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