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    Exclamation John Greenow.

    Trying to confirm a pedigree for my paternal great grandfather John Greenow.
    The information I know to be correct from his wedding certificate is that he married Clara Ellen Jenkins at the parish church of Holmer in Herefordshire on 25 Dec 1890 at which time he was listed as a 27 yr old labourer residing in Merthyr Tydfil. The certificate states his father was William Greenow, also a labourer at that time.
    Moving forward he is listed on the 1891 Census in Merthyr Tydfil Abercanaid District at 7 Davids Square (with the wrong surname but family members listed confirm as correct person plus correct address as seen on certificates below) .
    John GREENWOOD. hd marr aged 27. Labourer. born Hereford
    Clara Ellen GREENWOOD wife aged 20. born Hereford.
    William KENNETT. Brother in Law.age 24 unmarr Labourer born Hereford
    Archibald JENKINS. Brother in Law.age 17 unmarr Labourer born Hereford.
    At the time of my grandfathers birth 12 Feb 1894 John and Clara lived at 7 Davids Square, Abercanaid and John was listed as a coal miner. About 1900-01 Clara left John for Thomas Clarke and moved to Birmingham taking the children with her. By the time of my grandfathers marriage 19 jun 1919 he was still listed as a miner.
    I am unable to trace either his birth or his death.
    The 1871 census has a possible entry for him at Piece: RG10/2701 Place: Madley -Herefordshire Enumeration District: 9 Civil Parish: St Margarets Ecclesiastical Parish: Hereford Folio: 93 Page: 10 Schedule: 48 Address: Gelvah where the Smith family have a 9 year old Farm servant called John Greenow born in Newton Clodock, Herefordshire. This leads me to believe that he may be the son of William Greenow born 28 Oct 1832 and died 1869 at Clodock. However I can find no trace of him at all in the 1881 census or any info at all after 1894 except for the 1919 marriage certificate. Hence, I can't definitively connect him to any ancesterors/siblings.

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    Am still looking, but quite by chance found another John Greenow born 1837 in Hereford in Wales 1881

    RG11; Piece: 5241; Folio: 119; Page: 24

    who links back to the William Greenow you mention
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

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    D you have this

    Marriages Jun 1862
    Banks James Bristol 6a 789
    Greenow William Hereford 6a 789
    Lewis Sarah Hereford 6a 789

    as this is the only birth I can find

    Births Dec 1866
    Greenow John Hereford 6a/484

    and using the dates, here are some births which might be worth looking at, John icluded in the list

    Births Mar 1865
    GREENOW Alan Hereford 6a/493

    Births Dec 1866...?twins was my first thought
    Greenow James Hereford 6a/483
    Greenow John Hereford 6a/484

    Births Mar 1868
    Greenow George Hereford 6a/498

    Births Sep 1868
    GREENOW Leonard Hereford 6a487
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    Just extended the search to 1870 and found

    Births Sep 1869
    GREENOW Frank Hereford 6a/483

    Births Dec 1870
    GREENOW Alice Hereford 6a/488

    thought they may be familiar names to you whilst searching
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    Just found this IGI

    WILLIAM GREENOW
    Parents:
    Father: PETER GREENOW
    Marriages:
    Spouse: SARAH LEWIS
    Marriage:
    24 MAY 1862 Clodock And Longtown, Hereford, England
    Husband Age at Marriage: 26
    Wife Age at Marriage: 24

    And
    do you have this 1901

    RG13 piece 4947 folio 18 page 27
    High Street, Llanhilleth, Six Bells
    GREENOW, John Head Married M 37 1864 Coal Miner Hewer St Margaret's
    Herefordshire
    WILLIAMS, William Step Father Married M 74 1827 Living On Own Means Penybont
    Brecknockshire
    WILLIAMS, Mary Mother Married F 76 1825 Cruduck
    Herefordshire
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    Possibility
    Deaths Dec 1936
    Greenow John 70 Bedwellty 11a/93
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    Firstly apologies for the very late reply. For some reason I seem to have not visited here for 6 months. Thanks for your time researching. I can confirm that I've seen all the entries you found. Hoped the Six Bells entry would help me to pin him down but still haven't been able to yet. Think it will have to wait till I retire and can sit in Hereford record office trawling through old records. Thanks again, Jon

 

 

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