Philip James Devine

**gcon60** · 04-04-2011 08:28 AM

The birth certificate of an individual called Philip James Devine (1910) shows his parents as being James Devine and Lily McCaig. They were married on 14th December 1905 in Springburn according to a written statement on the son’s birth certificate. I need to find their wedding certificate and identify their parents. I don’t know what I am doing wrong, but I am finding it impossible to trace their wedding.

Additional information is that Lily McCaig’s father was born in Oban and served in the army. Lily appears to have been born in St Andrew, Newcastle-upon-Tyne in 1881 and it is possible that Duncan did not get married until 1884 in N-u-T. Lily is pregnant with a son to be called Duncan A McCaig in 1901 and appears on the census as being in Inverarary with her father Duncan, no sign of a husband or mother.

The problem I have is that a James Devine of Inveraray marries a Christina Fraser in 1914 and the rest is reasonably clear, marriage and then death in 1950. The James Devine who is supposed to have married Lily in 1905 and had the son PJ, in 1910 “seems” to be the same guy, but I cannot prove any more unless I have the wedding certificate.

One Jimmy, two women

**elaine** · 19-04-2011 07:21 PM

British Army Service Records 1760-1913
First name(s): Duncan
Last name: MCCAIG
Calculated year of birth: 1846
Parish of birth: Oban
Town of birth: Oban
County of birth: Argyllshire
Age at attestation: 21 years
Attestation date: 24 January 1867
Attestation corps: 5th Foot Report transcription error
Attestation soldier number: 1596
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 3336 / 16

His occupation is listed as baker, enlisted 24 Jan 1867 and stays in the reg till 1888.
He lists 2 family members next of kin Sister Jane Mckellen, Inverary Argyleshire and then to whom married, place and date
Jane Taunch (how it reads to me) Newcastle on Tyne 18 March 1887
Address 71 Long Row, ????, Newcastle on Tyne

Marriages Dec 1884
McCaig Duncan Newcastle T. 10b/218
Pearson Jane Newcastle T. 10b/218
Tainsh Jane Newcastle T. 10b/218
Turnbull John Charles Newcastle T. 10b/218

1884 is the only marriage I have found in England

To help with searches, he is in India Nov 1867 - Nov 1888

**elaine** · 19-04-2011 07:50 PM

Just found Lily and mother 1891, Duncan as stepson in Scotland, entry on census is very definite!
I was trying to help by looking round so may have duplicated the info, I don't have access to Scottish records so no luck with the marriage

**elaine** · 19-04-2011 07:52 PM

Did you see there was a Thomas Devine on the 1881 as well?

**elaine** · 19-04-2011 07:52 PM

...from Scotland, sorry missed that bit

**gcon60** · 05-10-2011 04:36 PM

Thanks for all that Elaine. I already had some of the Scottish bits. The big puzzle remains. What are Philip James Devine's details. Perhaps if you could get a hold of his army record there might be some useful information there.

Thanks again for your help.

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