The Brick Wall in My Family Tree, John Grundell

**binkey24** · 08-04-2011 12:07 AM

Hi I am looking for the parents of my G G G Grandfather. I have been searching for some time but have had little luck. Below is all the information I know of John Grundell

John was sent to Australia as a convict in 1847. He was born in Hetford and married vefor being transported to Australia. He already had two children and a number of partitions and court procedings took place to stop the transportations. In Australia met a young Irish girl, Elizabeth Byrnes, and were soon married in 1850.

I have looked in the convict registry and found his information but little luck finding out further from that who his parents are. Hoping that finding his parents will be the key to trace my family back further to get an idea of where i come from.

**Elsabels** · 08-04-2011 08:23 AM

Offence Larcency: Transportation 7 years

John Grundell
Age:24
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1820
Date of Trial:30 Dec 1844
Trial Year:1844
Location of Trial:Hertfordshire, England
Sentence:Transportation

GRUNDELL, not a very common name in the UK cenusus

Hertfordshire Record offie may have a newspaper item that gives more information you could try e mailing them

Hertford Record Office

**milford_lass** · 08-04-2011 05:57 PM

John Grundell

Vessel: Thomas Arbuthnot
Convicted Date:30 Dec 1844
Voyage Date: 6 Jan 1847
Colony:Van Dieman's Land
Place of Conviction:Herts, Hertfordshire, England

**milford_lass** · 08-04-2011 06:05 PM

info on the ship

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Arbuthnot_(ship)

**milford_lass** · 08-04-2011 06:19 PM

http://home.zipworld.com.au/~lnbdds/home/images10/captjsmith2.jpg copy and paste to google

picutre of Captain John Smith of the ship

**mrsp2008** · 08-04-2011 10:29 PM

Hi Binkey,

I've carried out a search on the site I use, and your John Grundell appears on quite a few family trees. They have his parents as John Grundell b. 1791- d. 1869, and Susanna Cawdell. However, I cannot find find anything else to back this up.

Mrsp

**elaine** · 09-04-2011 09:29 PM

Hertford Quarter sessions is written on the convict sheet so that's well worth tracing as Elsabels has listed above

**elaine** · 09-04-2011 09:34 PM

found this one to sdd to the list

Australian Convict Index, 1788-1868
Name: John Grundell
Age: 1821
Year: 1847
Trial Place: Hertford Qs
State: Wmstown E
Status: M
Ship: Thomas Arbuthnot
Occupation: Brickmaker/tailor

**elaine** · 09-04-2011 09:44 PM

Found this in the papers

NAVAL INTELLIGENCE .
The Morning Chronicle (London, England), Monday, January 4, 1847
The Thomas Arbuthnott transport ship, has been sent to Cowes, to embark the convict boys from Packhurst, and is then to proceed to Port Phillip.

**elaine** · 09-04-2011 09:45 PM

Have found another piece talking about the superior quality of delinquents they were carrying!

have saved the copy

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