Thread: William Matthew Jones

Hi
I have hit a brick wall and just can't get any further so here's hoping you can help. I am trying to find out more about my Great Grandfather a William Matthew Jones and his history / father. Here is all the information I have so far. William Matthew was born around 1874 / 1875 in or around Derby, (or derbyshire?). He married Hannah Wiles in Nottingham in April 1899 aged 23 and at the time of his marriage he was a milkman on a farm. His father, Joseph Jones, was deceased by the time of his marriage and was possibly a Drover, (Writing is hard to read on the marriage certificate). There is no further information on Joseph or his spouse. In the 1911 census William is shown as living and working in Boston Lincolnshire and his occupation was a General Labourer aged 37. He is living with wife Hannah, born in March, Cambs and children, Arthur William, aged 14, born in Nordelph, Norfolk. Another son, Ernest Edward Jones, aged 8, born in Nordelph, Norfolk, (my grandfather), two further sons, George H aged 6, John W aged 3, and a daughter, Eunice P aged 1, all born in Nordelph, Norfolk.

Wife, Hannah (nee Wiles), was born in March, Cambridgeshire, on 2nd Oct in 1876. She was baptised on 16th June 1879 in the Holy Trinty Church, Nordelph, Norfolk. Her father was also called Joseph and he was a labourer, born around 1852. His wife was called Sarah, (nee Remington) born around 1850. Hannah first appears in the 1881 census aged 4 living in Denver Cambs. She appears again in the 1891 census aged 14 and was working as a field worker in Cambs. She appears again in the 1901 census as Hannah Jones aged 24, living in March, Cambs with a son, William aged 3, (born in Nottingham), and visitor, Lucy, her sister aged 21. She finally appears in the 1911 census aged 36 as detailed above with William.

I can't make out the witnesses on the certificate as it's very hard to read on both the copy and the original certificate.The marriage was solemnized at the registry office in Nottingham in 1899.This is as much as I have so any pointers help or advice on where to go next would be gratefully received!!

Many Thanks
Chris

Elaine

Thanks for all your help on this. You are right. Violet was the last child but I didn't have the birth date so that's a bit of good news. I did have the William you found in Kent and there was one other William in Nottingham with the same birth year so I just don't know if this is the right one or if either of them are! I also hadn't come across the Nordelph Holy Trinty so I'm going to look at that now especially as Hannah's siblings are there as I have a lot of info on them already. Just wish I could get a lead on William in or around Derby or his father!!. Once again, thank you for all your help on this.

Chris

The child William aged 3 appears to have been born before the marriage have you looked for the birth entry for him?

Have you found the death of William Matthew Jones azs this will also help you establish a birth year

Why not query with the local registrars the witnesses...my understanding is that you should be able to read all the deatial on the marriage certificate?

Hi Elsabels

I've got the first born Arthur William but haven't got the birth certificate. However, both BMD and the Genealogist both confirm William Senior and Hannah Wiles as parents and he was born before the marriage so I know all this is correct and all fits OK. I've also got all the other children and where they were born but I can't find the death of William Jones but I do have the marriage certificate.Unfortunately I can't read the father's name but it looks like Joseph other than that, I may have to do what you suggest and see if the local registrars office can help.

Chris

Hi Elaine

Do you know if the Nordelph registers are online anywhere? I have Googled Nordelph Holy Trinty Church and I get a lot of info about the church etc. and the website you gave me the link to only has the registers from1813 to 1880.

Regards

Chris