Arthur Edward (Labdon) Osborne

**frenz68** · 09-02-2011 12:44 PM

Trying to find out what happened to my Great Grandfather Arthur Edward (Labdon) Osborne...Here are the known facts:
Born 9 March 1881 at 8 Tunnel Terrace Newport Monmouthshire to James Labdon, Butcher & Eliza Louisa Labdon, nee Simpson. (Not able to trace a marriage between them)
Baptised 11 Feb 1885 in Kennington, Surrey, abode 29 Tindal Street.
Married Louisa Moughton 25 Dec 1899 in Christ Church, Chelsea, Surrey. Residence at time 76 Redesdale Street. Occupation Electrician. Witness at marriage is a John Henry Osborne, Arthur's step father & the reason for Arthur & family using the surname OSBORNE on some records.
1892 John Henry Osborne marries Arthur's mother Eliza Louisa Simpson.
1901 Arthur, Louisa & daughter Louisa May are residing at 203 Bollo Lane, Acton with the family surname as Osborne, however all their 4 children are registered & baptised as Labdon!
1911 they can be found residing at Claremont, Esher, Surrey...It can be assumed that Arthur is employed by The Duchess of Albany, who resided there until her death in the 1920's.
Although we know what happened to wife Louisa & her 3 surviving children, Arthur disappears after 1915. I have copies of the Electoral Registers for 1912,13,14 & 15 showing him at Claremont still.
My mum was told that Arthur left Louisa & the children & emigrated to Canada, but so far I have not been able to prove/disprove this story.
Mum has a carriage clock given to Arthur's daughter Louisa May on her 21st Birthday, by The Duchess of Albany in 1921, so we know that the family, with or without Arthur was still at Claremont, or very close by.
I've contacted the Royal Archives at Windsor & TNA at Kew to see if they have any staff records for Claremont, but neither say they have.
None of the emigration records have yielded anything either and Canadian records are very difficult to track down unless you know which state he went to!
Any help or suggestions will be very gratefully received!!

**noggin28** · 17-03-2011 02:48 PM

I found the census you refer to in 1881 but there is no Arthur Edward, youngest child is Frank b1881

1881 Wales Census
Name: James Labdon Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Labdon
Gender: Male
Where born: Crediton, Devon, England
Civil parish: St Woollos County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales
Street Address: 8 Tunnel Terrace, Occupation: Butcher
Registration district: Newport Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
James Labdon 34 Eliza Labdon 20
James Labdon 11 Florence Labdon 9 Ellen Labdon 7
Thomas Labdon 5 Frank Labdon

**noggin28** · 17-03-2011 03:25 PM

1871 England Census
Name: James Laledon [James Labdon]
Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Laledon
Gender: Male
Where born: Crediton, Devon, England
Address: 119 Portland St, St Mary Newington
Occ: Butcher
Civil parish: St Mary Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Walworth
County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 121
James Laledon 27 Eliza Laledon 21
James Laledon 2 Florence Laledon 5 Months

Eliza Laledon 21, something wrong here b 1850 and in 1881 census b1860

**noggin28** · 17-03-2011 03:53 PM

I cannot find a marriage to a Elizabeth Louisa Simpson, But could he have been married before thence the differences in ages on the two census - two Elizas

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Eliza Moore
Spouse Name: James Labdon
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Mar 1868
Parish: St Paul
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: William Moore occ baker
Spouse Father Name: John Labdon occ butcher

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: James Labdon
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b Page: 467
Spouse Eliza Moore

**noggin28** · 17-03-2011 04:07 PM

Do you have this marriage cert? is Eliza listed as a spinster?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Eliza Louisa Simpson
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Richmond Sry
County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 501
Spouse: John Henry Osborne

**noggin28** · 17-03-2011 04:12 PM

Just to confuse thing I think this is the second marriage of James Labdon

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: James Labdon
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bridgend
County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a Page:672
Spouse: Catherine Sarah Jones

**noggin28** · 17-03-2011 04:31 PM

Ties in with Marriage above:

1891 Wales Census
Name: James Labdon Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Cathrine Labdon
Gender: Male
Where born: Crediton, Devon, England
Civil parish: Cwmdu
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangynwyd Town: Maes Teg (Maestag)
County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Street Address: looks like the Golden Lion 55/56 Castle Street
Occupation: Butcher
Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
James Labdon 44 Cathrine Labdon 32
Thomas A Labdon 15

1901 Wales Census
Name: James Labdon Age in 1901: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine S Labdon (b Cowbridge Glamorganshire)
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheriton, Devon, England
Civil parish: Cwmdu Ecclesiastical parish: Llangynwyd St Cynwyd
Town: Maesteg County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Street Address: 45, 46 To 59, Building Space, Lleoyd Road, Cwmdu, Maesteg
Occupation: Cannot read
Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 164
Household Members: Name Age
James Labdon 55 Catherine S Labdon 41
James H Labdon 33
Albert V Labdon 5

This would seem to indicate Eliza Louisa Simpson never married James Labdon or they divorced.

**frenz68** · 18-03-2011 09:23 PM

Hi,
Thanks for the reply. I have Arthur's birth certificate, which shows his birth being registered after census night, so I can only speculate that his name hadn't been decided on when they gave the information to the census enumerator!!

**noggin28** · 19-03-2011 06:12 PM

Do you have these as the same person? You have the birth date of 9th March 1881 for Arthur Edward Labdon's birth so he should have been on the 1881 census which was taken on the 3rd Apr 1881. The actual reg of birth looks as though it was done at the earliest Apr 1881. I think Frank in post#2 is Arthur because I cannot find a birth for him or find him in another census.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Arthur Edward Labdon
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a Page: 185

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Arthur Edward Labdon
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1885
Father's Name: James Labdon (butcher)
Mother's Name: Eliza Louisa Labdon
Parish or Poor Law Union: Kennington St John the Divine
Borough: Lambeth
abode: 29 Tindell Street

**frenz68** · 22-03-2011 09:15 AM

Hi,
Thanks again for your replies.
Just to pick up on the points you raised, James Labdon first married Eliza Moore in 1868, they had 4 children before she died in 1878. He then had a relationship with Eliza Louisa Simpson, resulting in Arthur Edward being born 9/3/1881, (this is the Eliza Labdon listed on the 1881 census). James Labdon then married again in 1886 a Catherine Sarah Jones.
I've never been able to locate Eliza Louisa Simpson or Arthur Edward Labdon on the 1891 census! Eliza Louisa Simpson then marries John Henry Osborne in 1892, she is listed as Spinster on this marriage certificate. This is where Arthur then begins to use the Osborne surname, but not all the time!!!

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