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    AA Member Member Morgana is an unknown quantity at this point
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    Default Names: Hancock, Carr and Beal

    Evenin' everyone,
    This is probably not the correct place to ask but I'll try anyway. A while back, (I gave up until now) I discovered that my Paternal GGGrandfather John Hancock (born Fen Ditton, Cambridge) married for a 2nd time, to 'Jane' ( I **think** her surname was Carr) who was born in Hull according to the 1891 census and they had a daughter, Annie (Ann) Elizabeth Hancock born c. 1882.

    I've found that Ann Elizabeth married in 1906 to a Harry BEAL at Beverley.

    My searching has gone cold!!

    If ANYONE, please, has any information whatsoever of the people named above, I'd more than a little grateful.

    Many thanks indeed,

    Morgana
    Last edited by Morgana; 02-03-2011 at 08:32 PM.

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    Worth a note maybe

    Births Mar 1916
    Beal Sydney Hancock Beverley 9d 163
    Births Jun 1918
    Beal Jessie Hancock Beverley 9d 157
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

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    I think this is Harry

    1901 Census
    BEAL, James
    BEVERLEY, Yorkshire (East riding)
    RG13 piece 4461 folio 148 page 7
    Minster Moorgate, Beverley St Martin
    BEAL, James Head Married M 57 1844 Blacksmith's Striker
    Bridlington
    Yorkshire
    BEAL, Sarah Wife Married F 49 1852
    Beverley
    Yorkshire
    BEAL, John W Son Single M 24 1877 Fitter's Helper
    Beverley
    Yorkshire
    BEAL, Harry Son Single M 17 1884 Tanners Labourer
    Beverley
    Yorkshire
    BEAL, Fred Son Single M 15 1886 Butcher's Boy
    Beverley
    Yorkshire
    BEAL, Martha Daughter Single F 13 1888
    Beverley
    Yorkshire
    BEAL, Tom Son Single M 11 1890
    Beverley
    Yorkshire
    BEAL, Lily Daughter Single F 3 1898
    Beverley
    Yorkshire

    Do you have the marriage cert showing his father?
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

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    Births Jun 1913
    Beal Doris Hancock Beverley 9d/202

    and just in case

    Marriages Sep 1906
    Beal Harry Beverley 9d/190
    HANCOCK Annie Elizabeth Beverley 9d/190
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    This is wonderful, Elaine. Many thanks indeed.

    Morgana

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    Hi Morgana.

    Could this be Ann Elizabeth Beal's death?

    Ann E Beal, died Oct/Dec quarter 1961, age 79 yrs. Holderness Reg. District. Vol. 2a Page 69 refers.
    Last edited by Finbar; 02-03-2011 at 09:57 PM.

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    Hello Finbar,

    Well the date and the area - Holderness - all tie up don't they, so yes - I think you've got the correct one there!

    Thanks for your work in finding this,

    Morgana
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    This looks like John Hancock 1881 a widower:

    1881 England Census
    Name: John Hancock Age: 48
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
    Relation: Boarder Gender: Male
    Where born: Cambridgeshire, England
    Civil parish: Beverley St Martin
    County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
    Street Address: St Andrews St
    Condition as to marriage: Widow
    Occupation: Tanners Labourer
    Registration district: Beverley Sub-registration district: Beverley
    ED, institution, or vessel: 23
    John T. Cross 27 Sarah A. Cross 27
    Charles Cross 5 John W. Cross 4 Emily Cross
    John Hancock 48
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

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    Yes noggin28, this absolutely IS my gggrandfather. He placed his 2 sons in the workhouse at Chesterton before moving (economic reasons do you think?) to Beverly. There doesn't seem any other reason WHY he should relocate to Beverly.

    M

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    Ann Elizabeth was born 1882 so John Hancock must have married Jane ? sometime between the 1881 census and Ann Elizabeth's birth.

    England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
    Name: Ann Elizabeth Hancock
    Year of Registration: 1882
    Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
    District: Beverley (1837-1937)
    County: Yorkshire - East Riding
    Volume: 9d
    Page: 111

    I cannot find a marriage for a John Hancock and Jane, suggest you get the above birth cert to find mothers surname.
    Last edited by noggin28; 03-03-2011 at 09:25 AM.
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

 

 

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