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    BIG HELP REQEST - Freeman Family Ireland / England

    I have hit the brick wall with this one. I am researching my wife's family tree. She has great grand parents who are Richard Freeman (b c1848 Ireland) and Helen Jane Hoyte (b 1850 Islington, London, England) who were married in1873 in Islington. Richard can be seen living with his sister Annie Freeman ( b1845 Ireland) in Shoreditch, London, Eng. in the 1871 census and his job is recorded as a Warehouseman. On his marriage certificate Richard's father is given as Richard Freeman, profession artist. Richard and Helen have firstly four children born in London: Richard (b1873), Frank (b1875), James William (b1876), and William (b1878). Sometime after Richard’s father’s death in 1878, Richard & Helen take their family to N. IrelandBelfast, Antrim). Helen gives birth to a 5th son, John (b 1880 Belfast) and a daughter Ellen (=Helen) in 1882, Ellen dies either at birth or the same year. The next year, 1883 Helen dies. She is buried, in Antrim and the cost of the burial was assisted by an Archer family. We obtained Helen’s death certificate, which actually has her down incorrectly as a Mary Freeman, who died in hospital from meningitis. After Helen’s death Richard takes the children back to England and abandons them at London’s Liverpool Street railway station. Some of the children are subsequently brought up by aunties. William though is adopted by the Archer family in Antrim and he can be seen in The Irish 1901 census with his adopted parents & in the Irish 1911 census with his wife and family. He added Archer to his name - William Freeman-Archer. Richard Freeman re-marries in 1888 in London to a widow Mary-Ann Sills ( nee Kayes) and then disappears. Richard is rumoured to have gone to Russia and may have dealt in furs.

    I would like to find out more about Richard Freeman, Snr. (b circa1801 in
    Ireland, possibly Dublin, died 1878, Hackney, London),

    He was a painter/artist of miniatures. He married at least once. The only wife we know of was a Mary Ann (who was 22 years his junior). Her maiden name maybe Fe(a)therston(e), Mayfield or possibly Wilson.

    (1) I would like to find out more info on Richard Freeman Snr. Who his parents were? Did he have any siblings ? I would like to establish who exactly he married. Did he marry more than once ?

    (2) Where exactly in
    Ireland was his son Richard Freeman jnr (b1848) born ?


    (3) We don’t know what happens to one of the five brothers, Richard Freeman (b1873 Hackney, London) after the 1891 census.

    (5) Nor do we know anything about another of the brothers, John Freeman (b 1880, Belfast). Who brought him up and where?


    Thanks for reading


    Any help / connections appreciated

    Thanks

    reni

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    Hello reniibacterium

    Have you explored the following:

    a) whether there are children for MAry Ann FREEMAN'S

    b) have you explored the FEATHERSTON / MAYFIELD /WILSON link, Richard b 17/11/1873 was with this family in 1881 and desc as nephew, in a later census he is with his mother's family HOYTE

    c) Richard FREEMAN b1801 - 1878 have you acquired his death certificate

    elsabels

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    Hi Elsabels,

    Thank you for replying

    (a) Are you refering to the Mary Ann who was Richard Freeman Snr 's(b1801) wife ? If so, no cannot find any births. We know the latter had at least two children, but with who, given that Mary Ann was 22years his junior. It may have been her, but we do not know for sure her maiden name. But in any case we have searched for possibilities with no joy .

    (b) Yes we know of the Fetherston/ Mayfield/Wilson connection in the 1881 census, showing the grandson of Richard Freeman Snr down as a nephew to the head Fetherston. We also know of the same person appearing incorrectly as a nephew in the 1891 census in the household of his grandmother Jane Hoyte. He was of course, nephew to Jane's son James Wm. Hoyte, who probably conveyed the relationship to him, rather than his mother who was the head.

    (c) Yes we had already obtained the death certificate of Richard Freeman Snr. The informant was his daughter Ann Freeman. No other new information was gleaned.

    reni
    Last edited by renibacterium; 26-02-2011 at 09:41 AM.

 

 

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