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    Exclamation Margarert Hunter

    Trying to find Parents of Margarert Hunter.Margaret Hunter born Liverpool married William May ,in Liverpool in 1863. In 1871 census age was given as 22.
    I have found a Margaret Hunter in 1861, parents Robert And Taby, but I can not find them in earlier or later census. In 1861 Robert was 51, born Aton and Taby ,39 born Boscow on but Boscobel on transcription. Other possibilities are Robert , born Ormskirk and Phoebe born Boscow in 1851 census. Boscobel is in Jamaica and there is an Aton in India. I have found a Robert Hunter born 1810 in Jamaica ,a slave. In the 1861 census Robert and Taby, and Margaret Hunter lived in Vauxhall, Bevington Howrd Street Sub Red. Robert was a carter. William May also lived in Vauxhall , Bevington in thesame census, age 21 labourer, born Ireland, and appears in the census page before the Hunters. William later was a carter and team owner, and this seems a likely connection, but I amm unable to find any further information. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Marriages Jun 1863
    HUNTER Margaret Liverpool 8b/4
    MAY William Liverpool 8b/4

    If you order the marriage certificate, father's name is given
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

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    Hi Dave.

    If it transpires that the Margaret Hunter (parents Robert and Taby) is the correct one, it could be worth considering that the Boscow given as Taby's birthplace might be Burscough, 8 or 9 miles from Liverpool, which used to be pronounced as 'Boska' or 'Bosko' locally.

    On the original census sheet, the enumerator seems to have been quite conscientious in recording birthplaces, and one would think he would have made a note if the birthplace in question was in a foreign country.

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    ''Trying to find Parents of Margarert Hunter.Margaret Hunter born Liverpool married William May ,in Liverpool in 1863. In 1871 census age was given as 22.''


    Are you sure these are the right people, married 1863 and age 22 in 1871 census means Margaret was 14 when they married. How did you get back to William Law and Margaret Hunter? Through the Law or Hunter line? Which census have you looked at, can you give references. Have you confirmed dates for their birth, if so what are they?
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    Margaret's age must be incorrect in the 1871 census as she would only have been about 13 or 14 when she married in 1863! Her marriage puts her year of birth about 1847 or earlier.

    I have two Phoebe's in my tree, both of whom were listed as Faby and Taby on several occasions, so I think the Robert you found in 1861 is likely to be the same as the one in 1851.

    There is the following entry in the parish records:
    Baptisms: 25 Oct 1846 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    Margaret Hunter - Child of Robert Hunter & Alice
    Abode: Ford St
    Occupation: Carter
    Baptised by: Thos. Halton Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1846 - 1847, Page 265, Entry 2117
    Source: LDS Film 93885

    There is also this:
    Marriage: 26 Jan 1840 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    Robert Hunter - (X), Full Labourer Bachelor of Lime Kiln Lane
    Alice Threlfall - (X), Full Spinster of Ford St
    Bride's Father: Henry Threlfall, Labourer
    Witness: Robert Threlfall, (X); Margaret Culcheth
    Married by Banns by: J G Headlam Off Min
    Notes: [No fathers name entered for groom]
    Register: Marriages 1839 - 1840, Page 106, Entry 211
    Source: LDS Film No 94181

    I can't find a marriage for a Robert & Phoebe at all with dates that fit since it looks as though they were together in 1851. If it's the same Robert, it looks as though Alice died between Margaret's baptism and the 1851 census. There is always the possibility that Alice and Phoebe/Taby were the same person, maybe a middle name?

    Have you considered that Aton might be Huyton or Aughton? There are a few Robert Hunters with baptism dates which fit, but the following entry ties up with the above:
    Baptisms: 31 Mar 1811 St Michael, Aughton, Lancashire, England
    Robert Hunter - illegitimate son of Margaret Hunter
    Born: 3 Mar 1811
    Abode: Aughton
    Register: Baptisms 1761 - 1812, Page 62 & 63, Entry 24
    Source: LDS Film 1657556

    This looks like Alice Threlfall's baptism:
    Baptisms: 24 Jul 1814 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
    Alice Threlfall - Daughter of Henry Threlfall & Ann
    Abode: Burscough
    Occupation: Labourer
    Baptised by: Rob. Mayow Off. Minister
    Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1820, Page 53, Entry 420
    Source: LDS Film 1849664

    Your best bet is, as Elaine says, to get Margaret's marriage cert to confirm her father's name.
    Aughton, by the way, is near Ormskirsk, as is Burscough.

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    There are two 1871 census that would fit a marriage c1863 between a William May and Margaret ? Do any of the children fit your William and Margaret ?

    1871 England Census
    Name: William May Age: 45
    Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Head
    Spouse's name: Margaret May Gender: Male
    Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Garston
    Ecclesiastical parish: Halewood St Nicholas
    Town: Garston County/Island: Lancashire
    Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Wavertree
    ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 179
    William May 45 Margaret May 38
    Catherine May 4 William May 2 John May 1 Month


    1871 England Census
    Name: William May Age: 32
    Estimated birth year: abt 1839
    Relation: Head Spouse's name: Margaret May
    Gender: Male Where born: Ireland
    Civil Parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
    County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
    Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
    ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Household schedule number: 198
    William May 32 Margaret May 22
    Alice Ann May 3 Willam May 1
    Robert May 26 Robert May 23 Both boarders.
    Last edited by noggin28; 04-02-2011 at 02:42 PM.
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    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    This could be the other marriage:

    England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
    Name: William May
    Year of Registration: 1866
    Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
    District: West Derby County: Lancashire
    Volume: 8b Page: 695
    Spouse Margaret Martin

    If you are certain your William married Margaret Hunter then you need to get that marriage cert. to get her age and fathers name. If you are not sure you should be looking at getting one of their childrens birth cert to get Mararets surname.
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

 

 

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