Croix de Guerre
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Hello. My Step Grandfather Thomas Patrick Vincent Smith b.1880 was a Regimental Sergeant Major in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, during the first world war. After being injured in France he was awarded the Croix de Guerre, this is as far as I have got. Can any body tell me how I find out exactly why he received this award. Unfortunatley it does not belong in the family any more. Many thanks for your help. DawnPetrina.
Have you got his army records? it possibly will tell you on there, You can also get his medal card, If you give us a little more info someone may be able to help. I assume he got a pension. Did he use his middle names? how long was he in the army ?
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An explanation of Croix de Gurre
There are approx 350 Thomas SMITH listed b 1880 in the Army,can you state his county or place of birth
I have found his service records. It just states French decoration 1914.
From the records he was a career soilder enlisting in 1907.
It also shows two wives.
I have PM you.
'' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.
Researching the following families;
Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire
Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives
This might help:
A 1914-1918 Croix de guerre. Only the ribbon differs with other Croix
Awarded by France and Belgium
Eligibility Military personnel only, often bestowed to members of allied countries
Awarded for individuals who distinguish themselves by acts of heroism involving combat with enemy forces.
Campaign World War I
Croix de guerre 1914-1918 & 1939-1945 ribbons with palm
The Croix de guerre (English translation: Cross of War) is a military decoration of both France and Belgium, where it is also known as the Oorlogskruis (Dutch). It was first created in 1915 in both countries and consists of a square-cross medal on two crossed swords, hanging from a ribbon with various degree pins. The decoration was awarded during World War I, again in World War II, and in other conflicts. The Croix de guerre was also commonly bestowed on foreign military forces allied to France and Belgium.
The Croix de guerre may eitherbe bestowed as a unit award or to individuals who distinguish themselves by acts of heroism involving combat with enemy forces. The medal is also awarded to those who have been "mentioned in despatches", meaning a heroic deed was performed meriting a citation from an individual's headquarters unit. The unit award of the Croix de guerre was issued to military commands who performed heroic deeds in combat and were subsequently recognized by headquarters.
try this site:
Croix de guerre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You could try this site:
Anglo-French FHS 31 Collingwood Walk Andover Hampshire SP10 1PU
Have you contacted the Royal Warwicks Regiment?
Last edited by noggin28; 03-02-2011 at 10:30 AM.
'' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.
Researching the following families;
Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire
Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives
Many thanks for all the information, this is certainly making me realise the sort of man my step grandfather was. He was my grandmothers first husband, but because of his injuries he only lived to 47, they had two children (boys). My grandmother then went on to marry again my grandfather (Leonard Bastock b.1893) he served in the RHA, Warwick. The actual medal seems to have gone missing from the family (typical) but as a lasting memory to my Mother I would like to find out exactly what he did to receive such an honour.
Your information is very interesting and I will certainly contact the Anglo-French FHS. As far as the Warwickshire Regiment this may be more difficult, I will let you know how I get on. Thanks for your help. Dawn
Hello - Many thanks for your help, I have found the army records for him (he had 2 middle names also), but none of them detail how or why he won the award. Someone else has pointed me in nother direction which I will be trying. Hopefully I will find out more for my mothers sake, she would have been his step daughter. thankyou - Dawn
Hello - yes I do have his medal card, but dont understand it really it goes like this:
MEDAL ROLL PAGE
VICTORY * L/104. B31 6580
BRITISH do do
/4 STAR L/2/8 229
Qualifying date: 4/10/1914
* T/W.O./Cl. 1
__________________________
I have found him in the London Gazette but there are no details.
Many thanks for your help. Dawn.
I have deleted the duplicate message
Last edited by Elsabels; 04-02-2011 at 02:00 PM. Reason: made an error
Hello Dawn
This site explains when the medals were issued and why and show pictures of them 1914-1918.net/grandad/themedals.htm
and this site to help you imterprete the Roll card 1914-1918.net/grandad/medals.htm
I need to lookfor the Croic de guerre
To successfully trace Army records, we need the year of birth and place together with the full name, if you require a look up for your Grandfather, can you post a new thread!
elsabels
Last edited by Elsabels; 04-02-2011 at 02:12 PM.
Hi elsabels this is the man in question:
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Thomas Patrick Vincent Smith
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Age at Enlistment: 27
Birth Parish: Halifax
Birth County: Yorkshire
Document Year: 1907
Regimental Number: 978
Number of Images: 7
When he signed up he states his occ Musician
Sign for the Royal Warwick Regiment.
Last edited by noggin28; 04-02-2011 at 02:18 PM.
'' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.
Researching the following families;
Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire
Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives
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