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    Exclamation Thomas Griffen Rawlins

    Hello
    I am trying to find information about my ancester Thomas Griffen Rawlins. So far I have an approximate date of birth of 1796. (Birthday between 6/Jun (date of 1841 census) and 24/Dec (date of death)) based on his age of 45 in the 1841 census. This is pre-GRO so how do I confirm a dob and find his parents to try and get further back? Any help would be much appreciated.

    This is what I know about him so far;
    Possibly born St Annes Parish, Soho, London -all his children were.
    Clothworker's Company have no record of his apprenticeship
    1820 mentioned in THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE OLD BAILEY REF: T18200217-155 as clothworker and lived in St. Martin's-lane
    4 May 1825 Insurred by Sun Insurance company @ 2 Upper St Martins Lane. Worked as a 'clothworker'
    In 1831 Thomas Griffin Rawlins is an Insolvent Debtor at Court in Portugal-street, Lincoln's Inn Fields. Described as "Rawlins Thomas Griffin, late of No 3 Dufours-place, and of No 12 Marshall-street, Broard-street, Golden-square, foreman to Mr Jones, clothworker, packer and presser."
    OCTOBER 24, 1836 he served on a jury at the CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT, London.
    1841 census living in Gerrard St (presumably No 13 - the family were still there in 1851), married to Susannah and has 5 surviving children.
    Thomas Griffin Rawlins (Snr) died at 13 Gerrard St. on 24/Dec/1841. Cause Consumption, informant Thomas Griffin (jnr). aged 46.
    1865, on Alfred's (his son) marriage certificate, Thomas Griffin's occupation was described as a "cloth washer"

    Dave Rawlins

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    Is this Thomas jnr you refer to?

    Name: Thomas Griffin Rawlins
    Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Oct 1821
    Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT ANNE SOHO,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
    Birth Date: 25 Sep 1821
    Father's Name: Thomas Griffin Rawlins
    Mother's Name: Susannah
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06236-1
    System Origin: England-ODM
    Source Film Number: 918608
    Reference Number:
    Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    Could this be him there can't to many Thomas Griffin Rawling's about.

    England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    Name: Thomas Griffin Rawling Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 27 Apr 1793
    Baptism/Christening Place: St. Nicholas', Brighton, Sussex, England
    Father's Name: James Henry Rawling
    Mother's Name: Martha
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01728-4
    System Origin: England-EASy
    Source Film Number: 1067105
    Reference Number: item 1
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    thomas seniors burial

    Name:Thomas Griffin RawlinsRecord Type:BurialEstimated Death Date:abt 1842Burial Date:2 Jan 1842Age:46Estimated birth year:abt 1796Parish or Poor Law Union:Soho St AnneBorough:WestminsterCounty:Middlesex

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    Hi Silverlode

    could this be the marriage for..

    JAMES HENRY RAWLINGS
    Martha Griffin
    Marriage: 1792 — Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England
    Marriage place: Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England
    Indexing project (batch) number: M01728-4
    system origin: England-VR
    source film number: 1067105
    'Census information CrownCopyright, in care of TNA'

    Kind regards......................... Bandit

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    and the date was ... 25 Jun 1792 — Saint Nicholas,
    'Census information CrownCopyright, in care of TNA'

    Kind regards......................... Bandit

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    Hello Silverlode

    The site that the information has been obtained from is www.familysearch.org

    You then need to look at the Parish Registers for the full dialogu, check out the library section of the site for your nearest centre to view the register

    elsabels

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    Hi Silverlode

    Having another look at the family Search records as used by the above searchers there are a number of families with various spellings of the surname. I wrote Rawlings but it is actually Rawlins and I have found another birth

    : 27 Apr 1793
    At:SAINT NICHOLAS, BRIGHTON, SUSSEX, ENGLAND with the same parents as above
    I guess you wish us to proceed with "Rawlins" as I have not looked at the census yet?
    'Census information CrownCopyright, in care of TNA'

    Kind regards......................... Bandit

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    Hi Silverlode

    is this the 1851 record you refered to in your opeing request...

    1851 HO107/1510/F526 Soho Middlesex at 13 Gerrard Street Born St Annes Westminster
    Rawling Thomas 29 Head Architect & Surveyor St Annes Westminister, -
    Rawling Susannah 53 Mother Stationer Sheatham, Surrey
    Rawling Susannah 24 Sister - St Annes Westminister,
    Rawling Julian 19 Brother House Decorater St Annes Westminister, -
    Jennings George 22 Visitor Writer St James, Middlesex
    Amsden Mary 41 Lodger - -, Switzerland
    Giesbers John 31 Lodger Manufacturer Bovermond, Rolland
    Allerme Phillip 55 Head Hotel Keeper -, France
    Allerme Joseph 55 Wife Wife -, France
    Allerme Heloisa 28 Daur Daur -, France
    Melony Catherine 30 Servt Servent Cork, Ireland
    'Census information CrownCopyright, in care of TNA'

    Kind regards......................... Bandit

    Researching : Cole : Poole / Wimborne -Vick: Christchuch / Wimborne-Martin : Wimborne / Bristol / Cardiff - Coombes: Bristol -Covering: 1762 - present day so far -Trades: cobblers, seamen, umbrella makers, milliners, painters and decorators and tailors

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    1841 England Census
    Name: Thomas Rawlins Age: 45
    Estimated birth year: abt 1796
    Civil Parish: St Anne Soho Hundred: Westminster
    County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
    Street address: Gerrard Street, St Anne Soho, Westminster
    Occupation: cloth worker
    Registration district: Strand Sub-registration district: St Anne Westminster
    Thomas Rawlins 45 Susannah Rawlins 40 (Both born out of county)
    Thomas Rawlins 20 Susannah Rawlins 14 Henry Rawlins 15
    Alfred Rawlins 12 Julian Rawlins 9 Edwin Rawlins 2
    HO107 piece 730 folio 9/24 page 5
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

 

 
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