George frederick shorter: coffee shop owner

**alisonjane** · 20-01-2011 06:02 PM

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has a old photo of my great great grandfather george frederick shorter who owned a temperance shop in Highgate. (its going back a bit)
I have got old photo of shop around 1889 when victoria was about, as the shop has got VR on the front of shop.
He married Margaret Rachael mackeness and had several children, 4 boys and 3 girls i think.
After rachael died he married Leah Eames in 1909 and they only had 2 girls. 1 died, and is buried with mother and other relitives of the family at highgate old cremetary.
I have asked other people at Highgate History in highgate itself, but come up with nothing.
Please, please, can someone help......
George frederick shorter died 1925 holloway, hospital
I just wanted to find out who he really looked like either me or one of the family and a picture would help a lot, so if anyone could help i would be so gratefull.

**Hazelnut** · 22-01-2011 09:31 PM

Hiya Alisonjane ,Maybe the local studies library might have a photo of him ,or try the Highgate local newspapers . Have you asked older relatives if they have any old photos of the family ? looked on census and it seems that his second wife was once his servant !

**alisonjane** · 23-01-2011 02:52 PM

I have a highgate book at home that mensions his temperance rooms and a picture of his shop, but not with him ouside of it.
My mum has been down to highgate with her sister who has since died and seen the photo and have asked about having a copy of it, and they just say they now nolonger have it. Its like going round and around from one to another. All this stems from her side of the family and it would be nice for me being the only one in the family that wants to know about all our ancestors and doing the family tree.
All the rest dont either care or there too young too understand.

**Hazelnut** · 23-01-2011 04:26 PM

Have you found his will ?

**alisonjane** · 23-01-2011 04:33 PM

No will, but birth cert. 1862.

**Hazelnut** · 23-01-2011 04:42 PM

George Frederick Shorter Probate date 27 nov 1925 Death date 28 aug 1925 Death place Middlesex , England Registry London

George Frederick Shorter of 49 High street, Highgate Middlesex died 28 august 1925 at Royal Northern Hospital Holloway, Middlesex Probate London 27 November to
CLARENCE EDMOND HATTEY Chauffeur and SAMUEL EDWIN SMITH Omnibus Driver Effects £1022 5s 2d.

The address might help you in your search .

**Hazelnut** · 23-01-2011 04:45 PM

He married Rachael Mackener 8 jan 1883 Islington both age 21 BUTLER Father George Thomas Shorter Gardener ,Her father George Mackener Labourer .
He married Leah Eames 21 feb 1888 Camden He was a widower Banns read feb 7,14 21

**banditfivealive** · 23-01-2011 04:55 PM

Hi Alison

of you use this ...

Bing
and enter Old Highgate photos ..
a selelction will come up and there may be someone you recognise

**alisonjane** · 24-01-2011 11:45 AM

i did that last night and was on it for at least 2 hours trying to find him, but NO it didnt work. Waste of time.

**alisonjane** · 24-01-2011 12:08 PM

why didnt he leave anything to albert and annie?
what happened about the shop?
I knew about the two husbands but didnt know what george died from or what he left in his will.
In the furture i will give you more infrmation if i have it.
My name is Alison HERITAGE, so i am looking into them too.
This new picture avatar is the picture of george frederick shorters shop 49, high street, highgate, middlesex.
I just want to find out what he looked like, all those years ago....

thanks
alisonjane

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