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    Default catherine wilds parents

    Hi below is my other nan
    catherine wild
    could anyone trace her parents please?
    we know her mother was mary ellen morgan before she was mary ellen wild

    This is the nearest one I can find with the birth year of 1908.

    Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
    WILD, JOSEPH HEAD MARRIED M 38 DOCK LABOURER LANCS LIVERPOOL
    WILD, MARY ELLEN WIFE MARRIED 14 F 36 LANCS LIVERPOOL
    WILD, THOMAS SON M 11 SCHOOL LANCS BOOTLE LPOOL
    WILD, EDWARD SON M 8 LANCS BOOTLE LPOOL
    WILD, PETER SON M 4 LANCS BOOTLE LPOOL
    WILD, CATHERINE DAUGHTER F 2 LANCS BOOTLE LPOOL
    MORGAN, ANN MOTHER IN LAW WIDOW F 60 LANCS LIVERPOOL
    MORGAN, ROSE ANN SISTER IN LAW SINGLE F 21 SAUSAGE MAKER LANCS BOOTLE LPOOL

    Address 140 BERRY STREET BOOTLE County Lancashire
    District West Derby Subdistrict Bootle
    Enumeration District 10 Parish Bootle cum Linacre


    Fantastic, Joseph's mum in law and sister in law living with them hehehe.

    Here's the marriage.

    Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1897
    Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
    WILD Joseph MORGAN Mary E West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/167/148

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    1901 England Census
    Name: Joseph Wild Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1873
    Relation: Son-in-Law Gender: Male
    Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    Civil Parish: Bootle Cum Linacre Ecclesiastical parish: Walton on the Hill St Mary
    County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
    Street address:140, Berry Street, Bootle Cum Linacre
    Occupation: Soldier (On Sick Leave)
    Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Bootle
    ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 313
    Edward Morgan 58
    Ann Morgan 49
    Mary Morgan 26 ( Wild)
    Rose Ann Morgan 11
    Joseph Wild 28
    Thomas Wild 1
    Joseph Reynolds 58
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    On freebmd as

    Marriages Dec 1897
    Morgan Mary Ellen W. Derby 8b/962
    Wilde Joseph W. Derby 8b/962
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

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    can anyone go further back than 1901 please?

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    Am guessing, this might be him

    First name(s): Thomas
    Last name: WILDE
    Calculated year of birth: 1872
    Parish of birth: Edge Hill
    Town of birth: Liverpool
    County of birth: Lancashire
    Age at attestation: 18 years
    Attestation date: 23 August 1890
    Attestation corps: South Lancashire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Volunteers)
    Attestation soldier number: 3176
    The National Archives reference: WO97 / 6238 / 104

    It's the best match to the 5 named soldiers
    ALSO
    Father Joseph
    Mother Catherine
    Brother's Thomas, John
    Sister Catherine
    70 Highgate Street, Liverpool
    Occupation Timesmith!!!

    1891
    They are at the same address, Thomas and Catherine with son Thomas
    RG12 piece 2989 folio 64 page 7

    Joseph is in the army
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    1891 RG12 piece 2972 folio 75 page 8

    MORGAN, Edward Head Married M 40 1851 Dock Labourer Liverpool
    Lancashire
    MORGAN, Ann Wife Married F 38 1853 Liverpool
    Lancashire
    MORGAN, Mary E Daughter Single F 17 1874 Dressmaker Liverpool
    Lancashire
    MORGAN, Rose A Daughter F 1 1890 Bootle
    Lancashire
    19, Bostock Street, Bootle Cum Linacre, Bootle
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    Quote Originally Posted by elaine View Post
    Am guessing, this might be him

    First name(s): Thomas
    Last name: WILDE
    Calculated year of birth: 1872
    Parish of birth: Edge Hill
    Town of birth: Liverpool
    County of birth: Lancashire
    Age at attestation: 18 years
    Attestation date: 23 August 1890
    Attestation corps: South Lancashire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Volunteers)
    Attestation soldier number: 3176
    The National Archives reference: WO97 / 6238 / 104

    It's the best match to the 5 named soldiers
    ALSO
    Father Joseph
    Mother Catherine
    Brother's Thomas, John
    Sister Catherine
    70 Highgate Street, Liverpool
    Occupation Timesmith!!!

    1891
    They are at the same address, Thomas and Catherine with son Thomas
    RG12 piece 2989 folio 64 page 7

    Joseph is in the army
    hi we think joseph was born in 1873 see noggin #2, but above you have Thomas Wild #5 in army born 1872 im confused?

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    Sorry, I can see what I have done wrong...written Thomas as the soldier instead of Joseph
    I couldn't find Joseph for definite but found a soldier possibly the only match to the Wild family when I had a look at census records for 1901

    First name(s): Joseph
    Last name: WILDE
    Calculated year of birth: 1872
    Parish of birth: Edge Hill
    Town of birth: Liverpool
    County of birth: Lancashire
    Age at attestation: 18 years
    Attestation date: 23 August 1890
    Attestation corps: South Lancashire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Volunteers)
    Attestation soldier number: 3176
    The National Archives reference: WO97 / 6238 / 104

    Father Thomas
    Mother Catherine
    Siblings Thomas John Catherine

    Thomas and Catherine are the recurring names and the 1891 reference above is the family as mentioned in the military notes. Best match I could find with out knowing Joseph's parents.
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    ahh i see,it dosent take much to confuse me though!! lol thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by elaine View Post
    Sorry, I can see what I have done wrong...written Thomas as the soldier instead of Joseph
    I couldn't find Joseph for definite but found a soldier possibly the only match to the Wild family when I had a look at census records for 1901

    First name(s): Joseph
    Last name: WILDE
    Calculated year of birth: 1872
    Parish of birth: Edge Hill
    Town of birth: Liverpool
    County of birth: Lancashire
    Age at attestation: 18 years
    Attestation date: 23 August 1890
    Attestation corps: South Lancashire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Volunteers)
    Attestation soldier number: 3176
    The National Archives reference: WO97 / 6238 / 104

    Father Thomas
    Mother Catherine
    Siblings Thomas John Catherine

    Thomas and Catherine are the recurring names and the 1891 reference above is the family as mentioned in the military notes. Best match I could find with out knowing Joseph's parents.
    well done just had this confirmed by my aunty who has josephs birth cert, he was born aug 1872 and his parents were thomas and catherine(nee burns)wild,

    also there is some sort of link with ARABS and the WILDS! all we know is something about kids called Diana but pronounced deerna and a sin david!! maybe the derby area? maybe josephs sister or aunty? be interesting to chase that one up!!!

    thanks

 

 

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