Thread: George Alfred Holding.

Good Morning Everyone

My brickwall is that of my great grandfather George Alfred Holding.

The facts I know are as follows -

1) George married Grace Ethel Jones on the 17th of June 1906 at the Parish Church in Camden Town. According to the marriage certificate, George's father was a William Holding, whose occupation on the certificate was that of a sailor and was deceased by the time of the marriage. The witnesses to the marriage were William Richard Jones (Grace's father) and a Susan Lenny (no idea as to who she is). I have no idea as to the name of George's mother. The marriage certificate states that George was born in 1877.

2) Now, as William is a sailor I have researched William and have found a William Henry Holding who was born on the 6th of April 1859 in Southwark (according to his naval record). I have not been able to track down his birth certificate as yet (I have applied for so many!). According to his naval record he was born on the 6th April 1859 in Southwark and joined up in 1874 and served mostly in the East Indies. I have a list of ships and am slowly trying to track down their movements. He was on board the HMS Flying Fish when George was born in 1877. I have been unable as yet to track down as to where the ship was just before George's birth (to narrow down where George might have been born). I can find no trace of a marriage for William so far. I have checked the 1881 census and William does appear on board HMS Eclipse (which ties up with the naval record) and is stated as being married but born in West Lynn Norfolk. I do not know where HMS Eclipse was at the time of the census. According to his naval record he went AWOL in Mauritus in 1881 and was never seen again.

3) George I believe may have served in the 1st World War as I have found a record in the archives but this record shows that this George served with the Yorks & Lancs Regiment, not a southern regiment which I would have thought he would have served in as he was living in London. He survived the war and if this record is my George then he also was awarded a Silver War Badge. He went on to work on the Railways and was a Municiple Bath attendent. I have not been able to find Georges birth certificate, so cannot confirm a date of birth. I do not know if he had any brothers or sisters either.

Please can you help me get past my brickwall! There are a lot of George Holdings and there may be a tie up to one I am already aware of, I just have not found any evidence to prove any of them as yet.

Thanks

Alexis

Hello

Couls this be George in the census returns?
1901 RG13 201 104 39
living by himself in Islington as a Railway employee

1891 RG12 354 108 27
as part of an extended family
DEVLIN Jack
DEVLIN Alice W
DEVLIN William
DEVLIN Maud
GILES Jane Mil
GILES Henry Bil
GILES Ada Sil
GILES Clara Sil
HOLDING George 14 uncle Linen folder Bemondsey

elsabels

Hello Harlequin,

I consider this to be the correct information for your ancestor for 1901, it is likely that he was an employee of the local Railway company as a labourer....you mention in your post that He went on to work on the Railways. It is likely that he spent some years working for them

Originally Posted by Elsabels

Hello
1891 RG12 354 108 27
as part of an extended family
DEVLIN Jack
DEVLIN Alice W
DEVLIN William
DEVLIN Maud
GILES Jane Mil
GILES Henry Bil
GILES Ada Sil
GILES Clara Sil
HOLDING George 14 uncle Linen folder Bemondsey elsabels

Have worked through this family, George HOLDING 's parents appear to be George Peter HOLDING and Phoebe Rebecca CRAPPER ( Jane GILES was Mrs CRAPPER nee ROSS)

There is a William Henry HOLDING b 1858 tree on A********!

William H HOLDING q3 1860 St Saviour 1d 15

1861census
RG9 313 40 1
HOLDING Robert Goddard 1834 Carman Christchurch
HOLDING Lucy 1836 Lynn
HOLDING William b1860 Christchurch

1871
RG10 618 70 47
HOLDING Robert 1834 Christchurch
HOLDING Lucy 1837 Lynn
HOLDING Robert 1858 Christchurch
HOLDING Henry ( William) 1860 Christchurch
HOLDING Elizabeth 1861
HOLDING Goddard 1866
HOLDING Eliza 1869

Note the mother was born Lynn......

I have found a marriage Lambeth St George
29/10/1882
William Henry HOLDING 23 bachelor Engineer s/o Robert Goddard HOLDING Engineer
Emily Sophia NORMAN d/o Willaim Edward Norman Lighterman
w Robert HOLDING cannot read the other...

If WH HOLDING was born circa 1860 he would have only been 17 when GA HOLDING was born! and a minor when married, so any marriage would probably be conducted under a marriage licence!

elsabels