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    AA Member Newbie waderg is an unknown quantity at this point
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    Hello

    I am looking for the maiden name of my grandfather's grandmother: Hannah.

    This is what I know about her.

    Hannah born about 1800 Gainford, Durham;
    married 1. Thomas Atkinson died Mar 1831 Bishopthorpe, York.
    Children:
    1. Hannah born July 1823, York; died 1899 Birmingham
    married 25 May 1857 Bishopthorpe, Yorkshire to Joseph Henry Wade (born May 1828 Hereford; died 1865 Newport, Wales)
    Children:
    1. George Woosung Wade born 1858 Shanghai; died 1951 Lampeter, Wales.
    2. Joseph Henry Wade born 1860 Newport, Wales; died 1943 Weston Super Mare
    3. Alfred Mathias Wade born 1862 Newport, Wales; died 1908 Birmingham.

    2. Harriet born 1 April 1828; died 12 Apl 1886
    married 25 February 1851 Bradford to Peter Hatfield (born 1827 Latham Yorkshire)
    Children:
    1. Peter Arthur Hatfield 1858 York
    2. William Henry Hatfield 1861 York

    married 2. 8 Jun 1834 Bishopthorpe to John Jackson
    John's children by first marriage:
    1. Eliza Jackson b 1823
    2. Henry Jackson b 1828

    On the 1861 census, John and Hannah Jackson are visiting Peter and Harriet Hatfield in Micklegate, York.
    On the 1871 census, Hannah Jackson is visiting Hannah Wade in Newport, Wales.

    I did find two 'possible' marriages between Thomas Atkinson and a Hannah:
    1821 Selby; Hannah Croft.
    1823 Selby: Hannah Wade!

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    1. Hannah born July 1823, York Think if we can find the parish records of Hannah's daughters birth , as this might give you more information of both parents . Found Hannah Atkinson c 26 july 1823 Saint martin and saint Gregory York Yorkshire Parents Thomas And Hannah , no surname for Hannah !
    Do you know when and where Hannah and Thomas married ?
    Last edited by Hazelnut; 19-12-2010 at 07:40 PM. Reason: amended information

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    This looks like hannah and John Jackson in 1841/51

    1841 England Census
    Name: Hannah Jackson Age: 40
    Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Gender: Female
    Where born: Yorkshire, England
    Civil Parish: St Mary Bishophill Senior Hundred: York
    Registration district: York
    Sub-registration district: Micklegate
    Neighbors: View others on page
    Household Members: Name Age
    John Jackson 50 Hannah Jackson 40
    Eliza Jackson 18 Henry Jackson 13
    Hannah Swales 15

    1851 England Census
    Name: Hannah Jackson
    Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801
    Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Jackson
    Gender: F (Female)
    Where born: Granforth Y St, Yorkshire, England
    Civil Parish: York St Mary Bishophill Senior
    County/Island: Yorkshire
    Street address: 20, Skeldergate, St Mary Bishophill Senior, York
    Occupation: Huband Butcher
    Registration district: York Sub-registration district: Micklegate
    ED, institution, or vessel: 9a Household schedule number: 150
    John Jackson 66 Hannah Jackson 50
    Henry Jackson 23
    Hannah Atkinson 27
    Mary Jackson 9
    Elizth Swales 13 Visitor

    IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles
    JOHN JACKSON Male Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH ATKINSON
    Marriage: 08 JUN 1834 Saint Mary Bishophill Senior, York, Yorkshire, England

    On 1861 census hannah's birth place looks like Gainford Darlington, County Durham

    In1871 its Durham.
    Last edited by noggin28; 20-12-2010 at 06:48 PM.
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    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    I notice that the first born child Hannah married a WADE and you had found a possible marriage of a Hannah WADE on the 29/10/1822. Is this a coincidence? or could it be a relative of Hannah Wade who married Thomas perhaps worth looking into
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    Census information Crown copyright from The National Archives

    Searching for Twizell, Brown & Storey from Northumberland. Kelly & Kinsella from Ireland, Parkinson from Lincolnshire. Mellor from Derbyshire and Jackson from Warwickshire.

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    Hello all!

    Many thanks for replying; didn't realise until today, so apologies if you thought I wasn't interested.

    Firstly, I think you were ALL on the right track..so well done!

    You might not want to read further as I think I'm just going to answer my original question (though if anyone has any additions I'd be delighted!).

    Since posting my 'biq query', I found the following:

    FreeREG Search

    Search performed in: BAPTISMS for Surname = WADE Date = 1790 +/- 10 County = Durham Place = Gainford

    18 matches were found for this query...interested in Nrs 10 & 11 I marked with an asterisk:

    # Baptism Date Surname Forename
    1 03 Sep 1780 WADE John
    2 03 Jun 1783 WADE Robert
    3 24 Jan 1784 WADE John
    4 19 Aug 1785 WADE Hannah
    5 21 Nov 1785 WADE Elizabeth
    6 08 Jun 1788 WADE Elizabeth
    7 15 Jul 1790 WADE Cuthbert
    8 03 Jul 1792 WADE Ann
    9 18 Mar 1795 WADE Elizabeth
    *10 10 Dec 1797 WADE Elizabeth
    *11 27 Dec 1799 WADE Hannah
    12 03 Sep 1780 WADE John
    13 03 Jun 1783 WADE Robert
    14 24 Jan 1784 WADE John
    15 19 Aug 1785 WADE Hannah
    16 21 Nov 1785 WADE Elizabeth
    17 08 Jun 1788 WADE Elizabeth
    18 15 Jul 1790 WADE Cuthbert

    County Durham
    Place Gainford
    Church St Mary

    DateOfBirth 26 Oct 1799
    BaptismDate 27 Dec 1799
    Forename Hannah

    FatherForename Henry
    MotherForename Hannah
    FatherSurname WADE
    MotherSurname FALKINGHAM
    Abode Bolaam
    FatherOccupation Farmer
    Notes 3rd dau. Father native of Paddock Mire St H Auckland.
    Mother native of Bishop Thorp, Yorkshire
    FileNumber 9388

    BaptismDate 10 Dec 1797
    Died 18 Dec 1798
    Buried 21 Dec 1798 (Abode Bolaam)
    Forename Elizabeth
    FatherForename Henry
    MotherForename Hannah
    FatherSurname WADE
    FileNumber 9388

    This Hannah (Wade) is actually the daughter of my 4xg grandparents (Henry Wade & Hannah nee Falkingham: whom I'd never placed in Gainford before) & the date and place of birth (Gainford, Oct 1799) also match
    1. the details I have for the mother of Hannah Atkinson (who married my 2xg grandfather Joseph Henry Wade).
    2. the Hannah Wade who married Thomas Atkinson in Selby, 1823 (think I might have the marriage date slightly wrong, as I think there was a 'decent interval' between the marriage and birth), so I think it's a case of two cousins marrying.

    Convinced the 1851 census showing Hannah (mother) being born in Bishopthorpe are wrong (but perhaps easily explained), though her father, some siblings & daughter (Hannah Atkinson) were born there & her second husband, John Jackson was a butcher there.

    I am pretty sure that Hannah Atkinson's sister was the Harriet who married Peter Hatfield because Hannah kept a journal while travelling to China with her new husband, & in it she refers to April 1 being her sister, Harriet's, birthday (& on the 1861 census her mother, Hannah Jackson, is shown as visiting Peter & Harriet Hatfield).

    Hope you followed my twisted logic above...
    Many thanks all who responded (& those who looked, but didn't find)...I now wish I'd posted another 'big query' I have which I though was much too difficult, but perhaps not beyond you!

    Regards

    Robert Wade

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    Hello Robert

    Pleased you found your reply, have you got your subscriptions to the site set correctly? must admit i was not one of those that looked, BUT why not post your other brickwall, I know memebrs are waiting for a another challenge, they thrive on it......

    In the meantime I will look at this one and hope I can contribute more, maybe wishful thinking!

    elsabels

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    Perhaps I'll follow up Elsabels' suggestion if I can get the other data together.

    Menwhile, if anoyne is still reading this, occurs to me that a while back I stumbled onto a website belonging to Colin Appleby:
    www.colinappleby.com

    He had the following marriages:
    Thomas Atkinson (c) 18 March 1803 Selby. Married Hannah Wade 29 Oct 1822 Selby.
    William Atkinson (c) 30 Aug 1804 Selby. Married Elizabeth.

    and details of Thomas and William:
    Atkinson, Thomas (b. ABT 18 MAR 1803, d. ?)
    Note: IGI Batch number C109003.
    Reference: 1437
    Atkinson, William (b. 30 AUG 1804, d. ABT JUN 1881)
    Note: Birth from IGI Batch number C109003.
    Death from FreeBMD William Atkinson died June Quarter 1881 aged 78 yea r s. Reg Selby 9c 445.
    Reference: 1438
    I think somewhere on his site, he had both a Hannah & Elizabeth Wade being born in Gainford (that's what made me look for two such Wade sisters there), so I wonder if Wlilliam's Elizabeth might just have been Hannah's sister?
    Not in my direct line, so perhaps I should just mind my own business...

    I'm pretty sure too, that his & MY Thomas Atkinson are the same, in which case Thomas died, as I said, in Bishopthorpe, York in Mar 1831 (in time to marry John Jackson the butcher).

    Did correspond with Colin in the past (& emailed him again after my recent Gainford discovery), so he should have all this information.

    Happy hunting!

    Robert Wade

 

 

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