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    Hello, thank you for this, its a great idea and i do hope you will be able to help me.

    I am trying to find the birth, parents and siblings of my ggg grandfather MARK MARKS - so far i have found the following:-

    Married 25th December 1813 St Martin in the Fields, Westminster to Elizabeth Waltham

    1841 Census has him living at 93 Blackman St, Borough, Southwark / Carver and Gilder with his wife Elizabeth and children Henry b.1820, Ann b.1826 and frederick b.1827 (they also had another child Charles Marks, my gg grandfather, born c.1818 Newington).

    I found Henry and Mary Ann (i'm not sure if this is the Ann on the 1841 census) were christened on 8th Sept 1822 and they were living at New Dover Road and Frederick was christened on 10th Oct 1827 they were living at William St, Lambeth.

    From the The london Gazette i found that MARK MARKS was Bankrupt in 1840 and on 10th April 1849 he died ; Cause of death:Hanging himself at home, 93 Blackman St, Southwark by a woollen cord to a rafter - Temporary Insanity.

    For a long time, there was a rumour within the family that there was jewish blood, but i have yet to find that connection and i am hoping that by finding Mark Marks birth, parents etc i will be able to prove or dispel this rumour.

    Many thanks for reading

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    Hi Summer , Havnt found any parents of Mark Marks , have you any other info on him at all that might help us to trace him ?
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    the marriage is 1813 so pre marriage cert. parish register is on line but fathers name not given in them so no help there. witnesses mark bailey and maria davey

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    g g grandfather charles?

    Name:Charles MarksRecord Type:BaptismEstimated Birth Date:abt 1817Baptism Date:30 Nov 1817Father's name:Mark MarksMother's name:Elizabeth MarksParish or Poor Law Union:City of London Lying-In Hospital, City Road, FinsburyBorough:Islington

    father is carver and gilder. address garden terrace, city road,

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    and do you have this

    Name:Mark MarksRecord Type:BurialEstimated Death Date:abt 1849Burial Date:17 Apr 1849Age:58Estimated birth year:abt 1791Parish or Poor Law Union:St George the MartyrBorough:SouthwarkCounty:Surrey

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    Do you have these marriages

    Emma Marks 05 Dec 1847 St Pancras Parish Church to William George Gregory, father Mark is a Carver

    Henry Marks 04 Dec 1845 St Mary at Lambeth to Sarah Elizabeth Griffiths, father Mark is a ???Gilder

    Have posted these after looking at the 1841 Census
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    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

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    Don't know if you have this already, but the closest to his birth going by 1841 which could have been rounded up or down

    Name: Mark Marks
    Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 23 Feb 1800
    Baptism/Christening Place: ST MARY WHITECHAPEL,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
    Father's Name: Mark Marks
    Mother's Name: Mary
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02557-5
    System Origin: England-ODM
    Source Film Number: 94695
    Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    Have found a baptism for an Emma Marks 31 Oct 1814 to Mark and Elizabeth address is workhouse and occupation poor
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

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    i saw that one too - wasnt sure if it was the same couple or not. mark was a labourer i think and being in the poorhouse didnt seem to fit with their position as carver/gilder etc later. that was a more skilled craft and would have taken training .

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    I know what you mean!
    Elaine

    Looking for Moore/Ward mainly Leicester, Elsden/Elsdon Essex way and where is Gertrude Wills???

    Census information Crown Copyright in Care of The National Archives

 

 

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