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    AA Member Newbie jmec73 is an unknown quantity at this point
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    Exclamation William Albert Cutler

    Hi,
    I'm hoping someone can help with the bizarre problem I've come up against.

    My grandfather was William Albert Cutler, b.1889 in Portsmouth, d. 1981 and he was married to Florence Maude Clarke. His mother was Selina Mary Etherton, b.1870 in Portsmouth also. Her parents were William Etherton, b. about 1837 and Mary (don't know the maiden name) b. about 1843. A great deal of my family came from the Portsea area of Portsmouth. If I therefore search for the marriage of William and Mary bizarrely I come up with the following on FreeBMD:

    Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%) ETHERTON William Portsea 2b727Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) Etherton William Portsea 2b620 Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%) Etherton William Portsea 2b757

    ...which is compounded by the fact that for all of these references there is a Mary involved in the marriage record, i.e:

    1863: Mary Mant
    1864: Mary Ann Ambrose
    1866: Mary A Stephens

    As I don't know which is the right marriage I can't buy a certificate to corroborate! I'm amazed there can have been three William Cutlers all possibly linked with Mary's!! Any help with unpicking this would be hugely appreciated.

    Many thanks.
    Jon.

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    Hi Jon!

    So members can "place" your family cencus ref for 1871, Portsmouth is RG10 1143 57b 7

    William 36 - Blacksmith - born Hovington Sussex
    Maryann 28 - born Portsea
    William H 3
    Selina A 8 months
    Rubina

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    ok the easiest and surest way will be to buy selinas birth cert
    eBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
    Name:Selina Mary EthertonYear of Registration:1870Quarter of Registration:Jul-Aug-SepDistrict:Portsea Island (1837-1900)County:HampshireVolume:2bPage:449

    1871 your wiliam is aged 36, a blacksmith and married to a mary ann with selina . He is born SUSSEX
    1881 your william a blacksmith married to mary ann with daughter selina says he is born PORTSMOUTH
    looking on 1861 for william before marriage :-
    i can find william etherton a blacksmith in portsea unmarried aged 25 born WINCHESTER
    i can also find william etherton in portsea - a blacksmith born hovington sussex but he is aged 58!! ( your williams father ??)

    looking at all the marys in 1861 to see if any of them could be knocked out by birthplace or birthdate etc does not help. they are still all possibles.

    apart from your william in 1871 ther is a william etherton married to a marry

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    i think we can knock out mary ambrose. on same marriage page as her is charles digweed as well as william etherton. on the 1871 he appears married to a mary ann ( the other bride is ann jane)

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    similarly on same page with mary mann is charles william webb. on the 1871 he appears married to a mary . the other bride is fanny so i think mary mann can be ruled out too

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    mary a stephens appears on same page with frederick j barber as well as wiliam etherton and rosina carter. looking on 1871 frederick j barber is married to rosina

    well i think so even though hubby isnt ther

    Name:Rosina BarberAge:27Estimated birth year:abt 1844Relation:HeadGender:FemaleWhere born:Portsea, Hampshire, EnglandCivil Parish:PortseaEcclesiastical parish:St PaulCounty/Island:HampshireCountry:EnglandRegistration district:Portsea IslandSub-registration district:LandportED, institution, or vessel:36Household schedule number:18Household Members:NameAgeRosina Barber27Rosina B Barber3


    Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1144; Folio: 49; Page: 3;

    that leaves william etherton to marry mary ann stephens - pheeew

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    Excellently done, Welshlady!

    Mary A Stephens it is!
    Rubina

 

 

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