James Brown

**BeshBrown** · 17-10-2010 02:07 PM

I have a problem with my Grandfather James Brown born 1855 in Liverpool
He was married twice
The first time as James Brown on 16th Oct 1875 in Leeds to Elizabeth Ann Sanderson stating his father was Andrew Brown a Brass Finisher and
the second time as James Anderson Brown on 2 May 1888 in County Durham to Margaret Foster stating his father was Anderson Brown a Glass Finisher.

Trying to go to James's parents the closest I can get is in the 1861 census. An Andrew Brown, a brass finisher, is living in Manchester, and has a son born in Liverpool in 1855. The only problem is that the son is called Andrew and not James. As James was fairly cavalier with forenames, what is the chance of him changing it from Andrew to James and how can I prove it?. By this time his father had died so it wasn't to avoid confusion.

**Hazelnut** · 11-11-2010 03:00 PM

Hi BeshBrown What i found on familysearch.org is the nearest i found for Liverpool, Andrew Brown b abt 1806 SCOTLAND d. 24 sept 1884 Spouse ANN GLOVER b. abt 1810 Gloucester marraige 6 Dec 1848 Liverpool Lancashire

**welshlady** · 11-11-2010 03:38 PM

are you certain that both marriages belong to the same james brown - ie your grandfather. does that fit with what you know in the family. if they are same person then it is possible that james brown born 1855 was andrew james or james andrew at birth but was known by different names at different times. do you have his birth certificate

**pejay** · 12-11-2010 04:03 PM

I do not think these are the same person. What certs do you have? I think it may be worth getting his birth cert [if you haven't already got it] to see his Father's name, Then you should hopefully be able to go back to Andrew's /Anderson's marriage I do have an ancestor who gave himself a middle name. and was then always known by that name . I understand this was at one time quite common.

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