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    Exclamation Lars Jacob Knudson

    Hi and thank you

    My brickwall seems to be my Great Grandfathers family Lars Jacob Knudson born about 1873 he was married to Leah Weepers and by 1901 was living in Middlesbrough he was an Able seaman and in 1911 was a Forman Merchant Sailorman, Iron and Steelworks. His father I believe was Sigbjorn Sigbjornsen I also understand they came from Bergen in Norway

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    my paternal Great Grandparents from Wales David John Thomas's parents my grandfather David John was born about 1907 in
    Carmarthenshire, Dyfed, Pembrokeshire and he married Florence May Watts who was from Swansea,

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    My brickwall seems to be my Great Grandfathers family Lars Jacob Knudson born about 1873 he was married to Leah Weepers and by 1901 was living in Middlesbrough he was an Able seaman and in 1911 was a Forman Merchant Sailorman, Iron and Steelworks. His father I believe was Sigbjorn Sigbjornsen I also understand they came from Bergen in Norway
    Sigbjorn Sigbjornsen 17 Apr 1872residence:Gyland, Vest-Agder, Norwayparents:Sigbjorn Sigbjornsen, Anna Olsdr
    from beta.familysearch.org.uk


    The marriage certificate should indicate his fathers name etc. the marriage was q1 1898 Middleboro' 9d 800, you can obtain this from gro.gov.uk


    As he may have anglicised his name, you may need ot look for Naturalisation papers or a notice in the London Gazette

    elsabels

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    Hi Serveta

    The naming pattern in Norway at this time was that - sen or son at the end of a name meant “son of” – therefore Lars Jacob Knudsen’s father that you note Sigbjornsen – would mean “son of Sigbjorn” – and the surname Knudsen – means “son of Knud”. Dtr or dr at the end of a surname means “daughter of”.

    Following this pattern, it is possible that the following records from IGI pilot project are relevant to your search.

    Possible marriage for Lars Jacobs’ parents

    Collection: Norway Marriages, 1660-1926

    Groom's Name: Sigbjorn Knudsen (Knud’s son)
    Groom's Birth Date: 1837
    Bride's Name: Elen Larsdr (Lars’ daughter)
    Bride's Birth Date: 1840
    Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1871
    Marriage Place: Sirdal,Vest-Agder,Norway
    Groom's Father's Name: Knud Knudsen
    Bride's Father's Name: Lars Sigbjornsen

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M42528-6
    System Origin: Norway-ODM
    Source Film Number: 311270

    Possible Christening for Lars Jacobs’ Father and mother

    Collection: Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927

    Name: Sigbjorn Knudsen
    Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 24 Jan 1836
    Baptism/Christening Place: , Bakke, Vest-Agder, Norway
    Father's Name: Knud Knudsen
    Mother's Name: Guri Sigbjornsdr

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42475-3
    System Origin: Norway-ODM
    Source Film Number: 127245

    Name: Elen Larsen
    Gender: Female
    Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Jun 1840
    Baptism/Christening Place: , Bakke, Vest-Agder, Norway
    Birth Date: 21 May 1840
    Father's Name: Lars Sigbjornsen
    Mother's Name: Anna Ansteensdr

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42475-3
    System Origin: Norway-EASy
    Source Film Number: 127245

    Possible Christening for Lars Jacob and siblings

    Name: Lars Sigbjornsen
    Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 08 Oct 1871
    Baptism/Christening Place: , Sirdal, Vest-Agder, Norway
    Birth Date: 03 Oct 1871
    Father's Name: Sigbjorn Knudsen
    Mother's Name: Elen Larsdr

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42528-6
    System Origin: Norway-EASy
    Source Film Number: 311270

    Name: Gabriel Knudsen
    Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Feb 1875
    Baptism/Christening Place: , SIRDAL, VEST-AGDER, NORWAY
    Birth Date: 31 Jan 1875
    Father's Name: Sigbjorn Knudsen
    Mother's Name: Ellen Larsdr

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42528-7
    System Origin: Norway-EASy
    Source Film Number: 1282635

    Name: Gurine Sofie Knudsen
    Gender: Female
    Baptism/Christening Date: 26 Feb 1882
    Baptism/Christening Place: TONSTAD, VEST-AGDER, NORWAY
    Birth Date: 04 Feb 1882
    Father's Name: Sigbjorn Knudsen
    Mother's Name: Elen Larsdr

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42530-1
    System Origin: Norway-EASy
    Source Film Number: 1282635

    Name: Syvert Knudsen
    Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 14 Feb 1886
    Baptism/Christening Place: TONSTAD, VEST-AGDER, NORWAY
    Birth Date: 28 Jan 1886
    Father's Name: Sigbjorn Knudsen
    Mother's Name: Elen Larsdr

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42530-1
    System Origin: Norway-EASy
    Source Film Number: 1282635

    Or of course, this could be Lars Jacobs’ Baptism:

    Collection: Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927

    Name: Lars Knudsen
    Gender: Male
    Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Mar 1873
    Baptism/Christening Place: HAUS, HORDALAND, NORWAY
    Birth Date: 23 Jan 1873
    Father's Name: Jacob Knudsen
    Mother's Name: Anna Jacobsdr

    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42143-7
    System Origin: Norway-VR
    Source Film Number: 278064
    Reference Number: 2:VLS3R0


    What is the source of your information on his father?

    It may help to see if there is a birthdate on his death certificate which may give you a more positive lead.

    Incorrectly transcribed as Lara

    Name: Lara J Knudson
    Estimated birth year: abt 1872
    Year of Registration: 1912
    Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
    Age at Death: 40
    District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
    County: Yorkshire - North Riding
    Volume: 9d Page: 592
    Last edited by Geniegenie; 12-11-2010 at 06:02 PM. Reason: Additional Information

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    What is the source of your information on his father?
    The name Sigbjornsen was given to me by my Aunt ( Lars Knudson's Grand Daughter )

    Thank you very much the infomation you have given looks highly likely specially has .. Gabriel, Gurine and Syvert are also three of the names of Lars children

    Regards Ron

 

 

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