Thread: Joseph Almack Black

T am trying to find information on a relative named Joseph Almack Black who was married on the 13th November 1846 to a Eliza Brittan at St. John of wapping Middlesex.
His fathers name was William Black. a shipwright
I am trying to find the following information:
Joseph Almack Black - DOB, date he died, how many children.
Regards his father any details possible - DOB, date married, who married too, any other children etc.
Any assistance would be helpful.

Hi AllanNicholls,

These are my workings on your questions so far – I was hoping to use this information to find Elizabeth and Joseph together after 1848 to establish where Joseph died and how many children he had – - but sadly no luck so far.


Also although the marriage gives Elizabeth’s surname as Brittan – I think that it may be Brattan

From IGI Pilot Project

Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: William Black
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Mar 1848
Baptism/Christening Place: HOLY TRINITY,KINGSTON UPON HULL,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Joseph Almack Black
Mother's Name: Eliza

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10748-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 990835

Name: William Black
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kingston Upon Hull
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 22 Page: 398

Their son William is with his grandmother and Uncle in 1851

1851 Census

WilliamBlack Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Grandson
Father's name: Thomas Brattain (I believe that this is just an incorrect assumption by the transcriber)
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Kingston Upon Hull
Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Humber

Household Members:
Name, Age

Martha Brattain, 64 B: Great Limbery, Lincolnshire – Shoemaker’s Widow
Thomas Brattain, 20 B: Barton, Lincolnshire
William Black, 3

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2362; Folio: 115; Page: 54; GSU roll: 87635-87636.

He seems to stay with his mother’s family as he is with his uncle again in 1861

1861 Census

Name: William Black
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Holy Trinity
Civil Parish: Hull Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton

Household Members:
Name, Age
Thomas Brattan, 30
Sarah A Brattan, 30
Jane Brattan, 9
Henry Brattan, 7
Robert E Brattan, 5
Mary A Brattan, 3
Ann Brattan, 1
William Black, 13

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3593; Folio: 76; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543158

So this looks like Joseph’s wifes’ family in 1841 Census

Name: Martha Brattan
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Hundred: Harthill (Hunsley Beacon Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire

Household Members:
Name, Age
William Brattan, 55 Shoemaker
Martha Brattan, 50
John Brattan, 20
Sarah Brattan, 20
Eliza Brattan, 20
Mary Brattan, 15
Joseph Brattan, 15
Robert Brattan, 13
Thomas Brattan, 10
Susanna Brattan, 8

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1232; Book: 11; Civil Parish: Sculcoates; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 13; Page: 18; Line: 11; GSU roll: 464226.

Giving Eliza a birth date of around 1821 and it shows on the census that she was not born in the County of Yorkshire – following through her siblings it seems that Eliza was born in Barton-Upon-Humber in Lincolnshire

So I think that this is Eliza’s mother and father’s marriage from IGI Pilot Project

Groom's Name: William Brattan
Bride's Name: Martha Blanchard
Marriage Date: 17 Aug 1813
Marriage Place: Barton-Upon-Humber, Lincoln, England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02595-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1450440
Reference Number: P4
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

And Elizabeth’s Christening - her siblings' christenings are also listed on IGI Pilot Project

Name: Elizabeth Brattan
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 02 Mar 1821
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peter's, Barton-upon-Humber, Lincoln, England
Father's Name: William Brattan
Mother's Name: Martha

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02741-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1450440
Reference Number: item 2 p 44
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975