Thread: Henry Sullivan in 1877 in Walworth, Surrey

Brilliant idea! I have been going round in circles for a couple of years now.

My paternal grandfather was born Henry Sullivan in 1877 in Walworth, Surrey (now London), married Emma Elizabeth Carpenter in 1902 and his marriage certificate names his father as William Sullivan (labourer). However, the 1881 census names him as Daniel William and his wife as Hannah. I have searched high and low for their marriage details, let alone a marriage certificate. I have guessed at William being born in 1852 (died 1917) and Hannah in 1851 (died 1908) from census details. I have centred my attention on this family as the children fit perfectly with what word of mouth knowledge I remember from my late father.

It really is a stumbling block and I really, really want to crack this. You would think that such recent history would be easier to track down but certainly this has not been my experience. I have had tremendous "luck" with my mother's family right back to the 16th century and would certainly like to trace my father's roots further back than his father. My adult children would be so interested too.

Fingers crossed!

regards, Rosemary

Hi Rosemary

I think that you are following the correct family in 1881 as if you find them in later census’, the children certainly seem to fit with a father who calls himself William or Daniel William – However, I have not pinpointed a likely marriage yet!


1901 Census

Name: William Sullivan
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Aner Sullivan
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: London
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter, Walworth

Household Members:
Name, Age

William Sullivan, 49 (Building Labourer)
Aner (I think this looks like Ann on the original) Sullivan, 50 B: Southwark
Harry Sullivan, 23
Sarah Sullivan, 20
John Sullivan, 8 (Looking at the original the age is actually 18)
Edward Sullivan, 2 (Looking at the original the age is actually 12)
Jessie Sullivan, 8

All children are born Walworth

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 380; Folio: 168; Page: 15.

1891 Census

Name: Daniel W Sullivan
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anna Sullivan
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Walworth St Marks
Town: London
City County/Island: London

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth

Household Members:
Name, Age

Daniel W Sullivan, 39 (Wharf Labourer – Dock L)
Anna Sullivan, 39 B: Southwark
Henry Sullivan, 14
Sarah Sullivan, 10
John Sullivan, 6
Edward Sullivan, 2
James Vidler, 43 Lodger

All children born Lambeth

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 363; Folio 14; Page 20; GSU roll: 6095473.

Baptism records

Name: Sarah Sullivan Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1883 Baptism Date: 19 Jan 1883 Father's name: William Sullivan (Labourer) Name: Hannah Sullivan Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth St John the Evangelist Borough: Southwark- Living at 14 Beddonie Street

Name: John Sullivan Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884 Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1884 Father's name: William Sullivan (Labourer) Mother's name: Hannah Sullivan Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth St John the Evangelist Borough: Southwark

Name: Edward Sullivan Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1889 Baptism Date: 21 Jun 1889 Born: 30 May 1889 Father's name: William Sullivan Mother's name: Hannah Sullivan Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth St Mark Borough: Southwark – Living 6 Angle Street – Father is a Dock Labourer

Marriage Records

Name: Sarah Sullivan Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Spouse Name: Samuel Arthur Cordrey Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 02 Aug 1903 Parish: St John the Evangelist, WalworthCounty: Surrey Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Sullivan Spouse Father Name: Thomas Cordrey

Interestingly, there is a witness to this marriage who signs themselves A. E Sullivan – I wonder if this is the mother – Anne Elizabeth, Anne Emma, Anne Ellen, Anne Emily?????

Name: Jessie Sullivan Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Spouse Name: Edward James Hobbs Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 01 Jan 1914 Parish: St John the Evangelist, WalworthCounty: Surrey Borough: Southwark Father Name: Daniel William Sullivan Spouse Father Name: Harry Hobbs

Here they are in 1881:
Name: Daniel Wm. Sullivan
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah Sullivan
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 45 King & Queen Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 33

Daniel Wm. Sullivan 29
Hannah Sullivan 30
Henry Sullivan 4
Sarah Sullivan (3 months old)
Caroline Sullivan (3 months old)
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 549; Folio: 116; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1341125.

All listed as born Walworth.

Hi Rosemary,

Do you have your Grandfather's birth certificate because that would give us a clue about his mother's maiden name and it may be easier to search for a marriage for her name.

Mrsp

there is this??

Record Type:Birth
Estimated Birth Date:21 Feb 1877
Mother's name:Hannah Sullivan
Parish or Poor Law Union:Southwark
Borough:SouthwarkCounty:Surrey

no that is a female birth ( father unknown) so that is no good