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  1. 19-10-2010 05:38 PM #1
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    Default Fairnell-Berwick area

    Hi,
    I've got a bit of poser on a branch of my tree, this branch concerns my nephews wife's family. I am looking for help with Margaret Fairnell c1862. This what I do know. She married William Wood on the 6th April 1885 in Newcastle upon Tyne. I have the certificate. Her father is down as William Fairnell(deceased) a Mariner. Another person researching this family also has a Margaret Fairnell, she also has a marriage certificate. She has Margaret marrying Thomas Wood in 1883 in Berwick, this Margarets father is Robert Fairnell(living) an Iron Moulder. To top it all in the 1891 census Margaret & William were living at 7 Pitt Street Newcastle. Margaret & Thomas were living (wait for it) at 11 Pitt Street Newcastle!. I know there must be two Margarets born the same year in the same area, but I can only find one birth. That Margaret is down as Margaret Brackett Fairnell born 1862 Berwick. I found a Margaret B Fairnell in the 1871 census living with William Fairnell but he was born c1809 and she is shown as his granddaughter.
    Could anyone help me with Margaret with a father called William living in the Berwick area.

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    This looks like the Margaret who married Thomas - 1871 Census Eastern Lane Berwick
    Robert Friar Fairnell 29 iron moulder b Tweedmouth
    Margery 28 b Tweedmouth
    Margaret 9 b Tweedmouth
    William 8 b Berwick
    Elizabeth 6 b Berwick
    James 4 b Berwick
    Robert 2 b Berwick
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    You already have this but for reference - 1871 census Bridge Street Berwick
    William Fairnell mariner ? 61 railway porter b Berwick
    Mary 59 b Tweedmouth
    Richard 20 shipwright b Tweedmouth
    Josephina C 16 domestic servant b Tweedmoouth
    William 15 shipwright b Tweedmouth
    Margaret B 9 grand daughter b Berwick
    * On 1861 census William senior recorded as a mariner
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    Maybe you should buy the birth certificate for Margaret B. I think it is possible that she was the illegitimate child of one of William and Mary's older children. If she was brought up by her grandparents it is possible she named William as her father at her marriage - either for respectability or because she thought of him as her father.
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    Do you have the ages and fathers names for the 2 Woods?
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    Hi Jimmy - imight be of a IitIe heIp as foIIows

    you are right there are 2 Maragerts born in 1862 - the other one was born i Tweedsmuir was age 28 on 1871 Census - married to Robert age 29 with 5 ChiIdren

    Your Margaret is a foIIows on the 1861 census
    1861
    Fairnell William 59


    Head
    Mariner
    Berwick, -
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    Mary

    47


    Wife
    -
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    Robert F

    19


    Son
    Iron Moulder
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    Martha

    16


    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    Eleanor Jane

    15


    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    Elizabeth

    13


    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    Richard B

    10


    Son
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    Josephina C

    6


    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    RG9/3885/~F55
    Fairnell
    William

    4


    Son
    -
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland

    after this I cant find the above anywhere - theyare aII missing or Im a bit off key. Do you have the Mariner detaIs or do you want it Iooked into to?
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    Hi,
    Thank you for the replies. William Wood born c1865 in Newcastle, his parents were Mark Wood & Mary Sparks. It states on the marriage certificate of Margaret & William that Mark is deceased(1885). Just gone over the certificate again and one of the witnesses was William Fairnell. At the moment I don't have details of the 'other' Margaret & Thomas. The lady who contacted me is waiting for their marriage certificate.I knew nothing of Margaret & Thomas until last Sunday. The 'other' Margaret had a child out of wedlock, his name was John Ferguson Fairnell born 1879.He was this ladies grandfather. I've been through the Woods I have and not found a Thomas, so don't know if he is related.

    Gillian, You might have a point about being illegitimate. I'll get her decendant Margaret Wood ! to order one. Might be the answer.

    Jim

    Just had a look at the Woods and Mark Wood had a brother William. So as Mark was deceased maybe William gave her away.
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    Hi Jimmy - working on the Wood's - this is
    1871 with EIizabeth Carr as head +2 0thers 9 Hill Street, Westgate, Northumberland RG10/5070/F?
    Wood
    Mark

    33

    Boarder
    Labourer
    Norham On Tweed, -
    Wood
    Mary

    33

    Wife
    -
    -, -
    Wood
    William

    6

    Son
    -
    New Castle, Northumberland
    Wood
    Alexander

    4

    Son
    -
    New Castle, Northumberland
    Wood
    John

    2

    Son
    -
    New Castle, Northumberland

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    Hi Jimmy in 1881 WiIIiam and Aexander are with the Thompsons as Boarders if you want it?
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    Hi Jimmy - the onIy WiIiam I found that was of a chid bearing age was this one born in Berwick - but it was prior to Margaret being born
    1861 RG9/3885/~F55 Castlegate, Berwick-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland
    Fairnell
    William

    51


    Head
    Mariner
    Berwick, -
    Fairnell
    Mary

    47


    Wife
    -
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Fairnell
    Robert F

    19


    Son
    Iron Moulder
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Fairnell
    Martha

    16


    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Fairnell
    Eleanor Jane

    15


    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland

    Fairnell
    Elizabeth

    13

    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Fairnell
    Richard B

    10

    Son
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Fairnell
    Josephina C

    6

    Daughter
    Scholar
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
    Fairnell
    William

    4

    Son
    -
    Tweedmouth, Northumberland
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