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    Default Looking for info on Lizze Sarah FRAZER

    Continuing from a recent post about the PETT family I am researching....

    Lizzie Sarah Frazer born 1861 (taken from her marriage) in Bermonsdey, m James Joseph PETT in 1896.

    I am trying to trace Lizzie's family back. From the marriage lines, I know her father was listed as deceased called James Samuel Frazer.

    I am having issues finding her on any documents, so I would be greatfull of any help...

    Many thanks in advance
    Clare

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    ''Lizzie Sarah Frazer born 1861 '' this is an approximate date as I am only taking this from info from the marriage entry in the parish register....from past experience I know this may not be exact.....

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    Lizzie Sarah FRASER b 1858 Bermondsey

    1861 census RG9 325 91 57

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    1861 England Census
    Name: Lizzey Fraser * Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1859
    Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Samuel Fraser **
    Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fraser Gender: Female
    Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
    Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
    County/Island: Surrey Country: England
    Street Address: 34, Minto Street, Bermondsey
    Registration district: Bermondsey Sub-registration district: Leather Market
    ED, institution, or vessel: 8
    Household schedule number: 335
    Samuel Fraser 48 (** using middle name, occ Painter, born Scotland)
    Elizabeth Fraser 43 SpitalfieldsMiddlesex
    Joseph B Fraser 18 Spitalfields Middlesex
    Louisa M Fraser 14 St Olaves Surrey
    Lizzey Fraser 2 Bermondsey Surrey

    * Surname spelt Fraser
    1871 England Census
    Name: Lizzie S Fraser Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1859
    Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fraser Gender: Female
    Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
    Civil parish: St Mary Newington Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
    County/Island: London Country: England
    Swan Street, St Mary Newington
    Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
    Sub-registration district: Trinity Newington
    ED, institution, or vessel: 7
    Household schedule number: 172
    Household Members: Name Age
    Elizabeth Fraser 54 Widow
    Louisa Fraser 24
    Lizzie S Fraser 12
    Last edited by noggin28; 14-10-2010 at 08:11 AM.
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    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    1881 England Census
    Name: Liza Sarah Fraser Age: 22
    Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter
    Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fraser Gender: Female
    Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
    Civil parish: Southwark St George Martyr
    County/Island: London Country: England
    Street Address: 58 Lant St
    Occupation: Laundress
    Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
    Sub-registration district: Borough Road
    ED, institution, or vessel: 3
    Elizabeth Fraser 63
    Liza Sarah Fraser 22
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    1851 England Census
    Name: Samuel Fraser Age: 40
    Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head
    Spouse's name: Elizabeth Fraser Gender: Male
    Where born: Leith, Scotland
    Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
    County/Island: Surrey Country: England
    Street Address:4, Providence Place, Saint Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
    Occupation: States Painter
    Registration district: Bermondsey Sub-registration district: Leather Market
    ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 164
    Samuel Fraser 40 Leith Scotland
    Elizabeth Fraser 32 Bethnal Green Middlesex
    Joseph Fraser 10 Spitalfields Middlesex
    Louisa Fraser 4 Southwark Surrey
    Eliza Fraser 5 MO Bermondsey Surrey

    This looks like samuels death:

    England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
    Name: Samuel Fraser
    Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Year of Registration: 1867
    Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Age at Death: 57 District: Bermondsey (1837-69)
    County: Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 73
    Last edited by noggin28; 14-10-2010 at 07:32 AM.
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    This might by Samuel and Elizabeths banns and marriage:

    London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
    Name: Samuel Fraser Spouse Name: Elizh Pamplin
    Record Type: Banns
    Marriage Bann Date: 28 Feb 1836
    Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
    County: Middlesex
    Borough: Tower Hamlets

    London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
    Name: Samuel Fraser Spouse Name: Elizabeth Pamplin
    Record Type: Marriage
    Marriage Date: 29 Feb 1836
    Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
    County: Middlesex
    Borough: Tower Hamlets

    Suggest you get a childs birth reg to confirm Elizabeths maiden name.
    Last edited by noggin28; 14-10-2010 at 08:54 AM.
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    1841 England Census
    Name: Samuel Fraser Age: 32
    Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Gender: Male Where born: Scotland
    Civil parish: Christ Church Spitalfields
    Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex
    Street Address: Queen Street, Christchurch, Tower Hamlets
    Occupation: Painter
    Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
    Samuel Fraser 32 Elizabeth Fraser 23
    James Fraser 2
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    these look like some of the childrens baptisms but I can't find one for lizzie

    London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
    Name: Joseph Burns Fraser
    Record Type: Baptism
    Estimated Birth Date: abt 1841
    Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1841
    Father's Name: Samuel Fraser (occ painter)
    Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fraser
    Parish or Poor Law Union: Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen
    Borough: Tower Hamlets

    London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
    Name: Louisa Margaret Fraser
    Record Type: Baptism
    Estimated Birth Date: abt 1847
    Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1847
    Father's Name: Samuel Fraser (occ painter)
    Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fraser
    Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Olave
    Borough: Southwark
    Abode 2 Maze Place

    London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
    Name: Elizabeth Fraser
    Record Type: Baptism
    Estimated Birth Date: abt 1837
    Baptism Date: 16 Aug 1837
    Father's Name: Samuel Fraser (occ painter)
    Mother's Name: Elizabeth Fraser
    Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
    Borough: Tower Hamlets

    London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
    Name: James Samuel Fraser
    Record Type: Baptism
    Estimated Birth Date: abt 1838
    Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1838
    Father's Name: Samuel Fraser (painter)
    Mother's Name: Elizth Fraser
    Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthew
    Borough: Tower Hamlets
    abode Brick lane
    '' No one knows who we are or where we are going until we have been and gone ''.

    Researching the following families;
    Kitchin & Sharpe, Cumberland, Canada, USA : Dixon, Lancashire, Westmorland, USA
    Fell & Hanslow, Warwickshire, Staffordshire, USA Australia.
    Guess, Buckinghamshire : Meakins, Northamptonshire

    Census data courtesy & Copyright, of the UK National Archives

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    Just popped on quickly to look at something completly different - and was distracted to look on here.
    WOW! Thanks for all the info ~ all looks really good ~ will have a good read through later this evening.

    Thanks again everyone (& If anything else pops up - I would be more than great full)

    Clare

 

 

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