Thread: Brinkley Herts and Middx Gypsies

I'm researching the Brinkley's, gypsies from all over the South of England, mainly Herts and Middlesex.

My daughter in law was a Brinkley but her Mum and Dad died when she was young and unfortunately she doesn't know anything about the family but I'm working on her older cousins!! Her gt grandfather was Joseph Brinkley and gt grandmother Cinderella, on the 1881 census they were in a caravan on a roadside in Herts. I can't find anything else for them.

Sue

Hi Finbar,

Thank you. I joined the site yesterday, I'm not sure whether I'm coming or going joining forums at the moment!

Thanks again,

Sue

Is this the Cinderella you refer too or another branch of the family ? You did not give any idea of age in 1881.

1901 England Census
Name: Cinderella Brinkley Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife Spouse's name: James Brinkley
Gender: Female Where born: Eltham, Kent, England
Civil parish: Southgate Ecclesiastical parish: Winchmore Hill St Paul
County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Street Address: Caravan, Barrowell Green, Southgate
Occupation: hawkers
Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
James Brinkley 60 Maidstone Kent
Cinderella Brinkley 58 Eltham

1881 England Census
Name: Joseph Brinkley Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Head Spouse's name: Kelly Brinkley
Gender: Male Where born: Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Northaw County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England
Street Address: Caravan in Cuffley Roadside
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Traveller (Hawker)
Registration district: Hatfield Sub-registration district: Hatfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Joseph Brinkley 21 Hertford
Kelly Brinkley 19 Redbourn

This is part of the caravan community in hertfordshire in 1881. Perhaps if you try BMD reg and other sites you might be able to link who is related to who.

1881 England Census
Name: Aquila Brinkley Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Relation: Mother Gender: Female
Where born: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Hertford St John County/Island: Hertfordshire
Street Address: The Folly Caravan, Hertford St John
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Registration district: Hertford Sub-registration district: Hertford
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Jonathan Brinkley 29 Datchworth Hertfordshire occ hawker
Susan Brinkley 39 Stevenage Hertfordshire occ hawker
Aquila Brinkley 60 Hitchin Hertfordshire

1881 England Census
Name: Charles Brinkley Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head Spouse's name: Tiberetta Brinkley Gender: Male
Where born: Wormley, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Hertford St John County/Island: Hertfordshire
Street Address: The Folly Caravan
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Wire Worker & Hawker
Registration district: Hertford Sub-registration district: Hertford
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Brinkley 32 Tiberetta Brinkley 29
Aquila Brinkley 10 Alice Brinkley 9 Sally Brinkley 6 Jonathan Brinkley 5 Fanny Brinkley 1

1881 England Census
Name: Valentine Brinkley Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head Spouse's name: Rhoda Brinkley Gender: Male
Where born: Burnham Green, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Northaw County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England
Street Address: Caravan in The Cuffley Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Traveller (Hawker)
Registration district: Hatfield Sub-registration district: Hatfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Valentine Brinkley 35 Rhoda Brinkley 35
James Brinkley 4 Valentine Brinkley 2 Edward Brinkley

Good Morning,

Thanks so much noggin for all this info. I have some of it and I'm not sure how they are all related but sure they are somehow. The Cinderella of Kent isn't my dil's great grandmother but the Relly or Kelly, I'm sure is. I've found the same as you, the 1881 census but can't find a marriage for them. I don't know her maiden name which doesn't help at all. I found a death cert for Cinderella Brinkley in Ware, Herts which is where my son and dil live so I've sent for it and hope it's the right one. And hope I will know if it is!

Joseph was indeed born about 1860 and Relly / Kelly born about 1862 and I think they had a son Rodney in 1888. This is where I start to get stuck.

I will look at the BMD records, thanks again.

Sue

I think this is your Joseph and son Rodney. It would appear that he as remarried. They are in the Liverpool area. There is also a family of Lee's on the same census

1901 England Census
Name: Rodney Brinkley Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Brinkley
Mother's Name: Sophia Brinkley
Gender: Male Where born: London, England
Civil parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: West Derby St Mary the Virgin
County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street Address: Gipsy Caravan Van, Stonebridge Lane, West Derby Rural
Occupation: horse dealer
Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Fazakerley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 175
Joseph Brinkley 40 Sophia Brinkley 39
Elias Brinkley 17 Joseph Brinkley 15 Rodney Brinkley 13
Elizth Brinkley 10 Genty Brinkley 7 Jonathan Brinkley 4

Hi Noggin, I've only just seen this, thank you, very interesting. I saw this info ages ago and ignored it thinking it wasn't ours. I shall print this off and study it.

Thank you.

Sue

I would just ike to thank Noggin for ALL the help he's given me with my Brinkley family. It's very much appreciated, I could never have found all that information! He has sent me SO much.

Thank you.

Sue