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    Default Ann Rattenbury/Eliza Rattenbury

    Noggin has done some stunning work helping me piece things together. The above relative is a bit of a conundrum. I think Ann probably came from Earsdon. I am trying to answer
    • Who is Eliza's Father
    • Any Relatives of Ann Rattenbury
    Thanks in advance
    David


    Here she is I think in 1841

    1841 Census
    Address: King Street, Yarmouth County: Norfolk
    William Green 1816 Norfolk Ann Green * 1811 Norfolk
    William Green 1836 Norfolk
    Thomas Green 1838 Norfolk
    Hannah Green 1840 Norfolk
    Eliza Rattenbury 1829 Norfolk
    * could this be Ann Ratttenbury Eliza's mother

    This is her marriage to William Green
    IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles
    ANN RATTENBERRY Female Marriages: Spouse: WILLIAM GREEN
    Marriage: 03 DEC 1834 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

    Unfortunately it doesn't state if Ann was a widow or single.





    This is the marriage of her daughter into my part of the family

    Groom's Name: Robert Hindry Berry
    Bride's Name: Eliza Susannah Rattenburg
    Marriage Date: 29 Jul 1850
    Marriage Place: St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England:
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M16315-5
    System Origin: England-ODM
    Source Film Number: 1526457
    Reference Number:
    Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

    England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
    Name: Eliza Susannah Rattenbury
    Year of Registration: 1850
    Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
    District: Yarmouth (1837-1924) County: Norfolk
    Volume: 13 Page: 578
    Spouse: Robert Hindry Berry

    This is her daughters Christening Record

    England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
    Name: Eliza Susannah Rattenbury
    Gender: Female
    Birth Date: abt 1828
    Christening Date: 20 Nov 1828 Christening Place: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
    (Earsdon By North Shields) two entries different places.
    Mother's Name: Ann Rattenbury **

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    This is Ann in 1851 place of birth not clear perhaps some one else can work it out.

    1851 England Census
    Name: Ann Green Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1810
    Relation: Head Gender: Female (widow)
    Where born: Males ( this is not clear) ?
    Civil parish: Great Yarmouth Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
    County/Island: Norfolk Country: England
    Street Address: Symonds Square, Great Yarmouth
    Occupation: Linen Bleacher
    Registration district: Yarmouth Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern
    ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Household schedule number: 29
    Ann Green 41
    Eliza Berry 23 Eliza Berry 3 (G/daug.)
    William Green 15
    Thomas Green 14
    Benjamin Green 12
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    Hi Noggin and Dave tyr this to fiII in the gaps1851

    Green Ann 41 Head Linen Bleacher -, Wales

    Symonds Square, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    HO107/1806/~F8

    Berry Eliza 23 Daur Mariners Wife Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    Symonds Square, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    HO107/1806/~F8

    Berry Eliza 3 Grand Daur - Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    Symonds Square, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    HO107/1806/~F8

    Green William 15 Son Labourer Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    Symonds Square, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    HO107/1806/~F8

    Green Thomas 14 Son Scholar Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    Symonds Square, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    HO107/1806/~F8

    Green Benjamin 12 Son Scholar Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    Symonds Square, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk
    HO107/1806/~F8
    Last edited by Elsabels; 17-10-2010 at 09:25 PM.
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    again in 1861 its quaIified by her being born in Swansea and Iiving in FiIby street NorfoIk
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    Kind regards......................... Bandit

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    but be carefefuI theres one born in HuII too same age for the above census

    1841 census - found this Greene Eliza 16 - Female Servant Yes King Street, Kings Lynn St Margaret, Norfolk HO107/0786/F
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    Kind regards......................... Bandit

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    I have a Ann rattenbury born 1810 - mother called elizabeth - She had an illegitimate daughter called Elizabeth - could this be Eliza?

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    sorry Ann 1810 Barnstaple

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    still trying to track eliza and ann - there was an ann rattenbury 1810 barnstaple and one born in merton devon to william and mary if anyone can shake up more details

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    Hello

    Two things you need, with the possibilty of a 3rd

    1) a copy of the marriage entry from the Parish Records for Ann RATTENBURY = Wiliam GREEN in 1834

    2) copy of the baptismal entry from the Parish Register for Eliza RATTENBURY

    3) a copy of the marriage entry from the Parish Records for Eliza RATTENBURY = Richard BERRY ( you never know she may know her father's name!)

    Go to library on the familysearch.org site, find the nearest centre to you and order a copy of the film

    As regards the place of Ann's birth WALES

    elsabels

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    Thanks elsabels - really helpful to know where to start with some of my queries - very new to all this and great to get such helpful advice

 

 

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